Cliff Ruckstuhl

I have been a 951 owner for about 4 years and have a very, very nice 951 with some mods and it is cranking about 300 RWHP. The 928 has always been my favorite, I have kicking been around selling my much loved 951 and buying a 928. I have always loved the sound of a V8. Having a budget of under $15K which years should I look at? I understand that these are 2 very different cars but can I expect some of the throw me in the seat kind of accerlation from the 928 like I have in my 951. I drove a few about 4 years ago and forget how they feel. Being a Porsche owner I know about the cost and buying the best one I can find. Ther is a local 86 1/2 S for sale with a 5 speed but it is kind of ruff and I think he wants $9K for it.

Cliff

SeanR

Where are you located? That could help some of the 928'ers help you find a good one.

Cliff Ruckstuhl

I am in Findlay Ohio, 40 miles South of Toledo. I could buy the 928 and then sell the 951 but not the way I want to go. I have done this before with boats and owning 2 boats is never fun.

Cliff

IcemanG17

951 & 928 have a very different feel......the 951 is much lighter and has a quicker feel to it...everything about the 928 is BIG...a big feel....big power....big brakes....heavy steering and shifting....big comfort (at silly high speeds).....it will be far more comfortable than the 951 too...can be a little big at low speeds...but comes into its own on a track or in an open road race

AJK

If you love the sound of a V8, the first thing to do is to remove the rear muffler and install an RMB (Rear Muffler Bypass) The sound is glorious!

heinrich

I have to disagree with IcemanG. Yes, an automatic, fully-optioned 928 is big, feels big and acts big. However a 5-spd 32V car or Euro feels very small to me and the torque is right there, in any gear, at your command, IMMEDIATELY and constantly till yo feel your cajones up under your ears and have to slow down for fear of prison time. A 951 is a wonderful car. And a 928 (to me) feels no bigger, except in interior spaciousness. Rear seats are deeper and there is no cargo space on the rear sides. The dash and ergonomics are several times as good as a 944's. Brakes you already know. GO DRIVE AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE since you are used to an excellent example. A dog will be a dog.

heinrich

oh and the 928 sunroof sucks compared to 944/951.

danglerb

Is $15k your total budget, or your buy it budget and you won't have trouble with maybe $5k more to bring the maintenance current? One point all owners seem to agree on is that you should buy the nicest, newest, 928 that fits your budget, but you must include some money for first year repairs even if the car has a flawless PPI and service history.

I have been in exactly your position, years ago I owned a 81 928 auto, enjoyed it, but no it did NOT throw me back in my seat, and I traded it in on a new 86 944T, which very much so threw me back in the seat, albeit a seat lacking the luxury feel of the 928. End of the 944T lease bank wanted too much compared to market value and I bought a new 5.0L mustang for less money, that was slightly faster, but a big step down again in the fancy dept. 16 years later and I have a 83 5 spd 928, and the Mustang is going to my son. Mustang is clearly faster, not sure exactly how it would stack up with a newer 928 5 spd, but the 928 does have a FUN power curve that invites exploration. How happy I am with the absolute performance is a constant debate between me and my wallet.

*** Note many on the list have much less debate with their wallets, so plenty of very fast, very expensive 928's are around that throw you back in your seat just fine, but not on a $15k budget. The character of the 928 is a fast, designed for high speed luxury sports car, that I think is a bit of a mistake to make into a muscle car, or compare to a muscle car. Its like wine and vodka, I don't buy wine based on how fast it gets me a buzz (anymore, or that frequently, not so much in public at least, besides Thunderbird has a lovely bouquet).

Kevin Michael

Cliff, I am in Gettysburg Pa. The standard 5spd. s4 will exceed a stock 951 in acceleration. Get one that is supercharged and you will be where you want to be. Oh, Heinrich is right,as usual. BTW, you could almost afford mine qaccording to your posted budget. wink,wink!

marton

Which Mustang is that? I have a 93 Mustang 5.0L - it is the convertible so is really heavy but any way quite quick up to 60 mph. It is way behind my 81 euro 4.7 928s on both acceleration over 60 and top speed.

Marton

bigmac

Cliff, Good luck. There is a cluster of 928 nuts in SE Michigan, Chaad, Andrew etc, keep us in mind for talk, fun, and 928 events. Mac

Kevin Michael

Dangler, what kinda Mustang did you buy in the eighties that would be faster than your 928? Get a g-tech on those cars then report. The mustang may feel faster as it pitches and yaws, squeaks and rattles and has very short shift points all contributing to the feel faster thing. My nephew thought his 68 camaro with a 383 and 3.73 gears was faster after driving my shark. Two g-tech runs later he changes his tune. Very smooth and eneventful acceleration plague the 928 for feel fast effect.

danglerb

Euro S performance doesn't help someone to understand what they can expect from a 928, which in Ohio is pretty much going to be a USA version.

The 951 has a snap to it when the turbos spool up that is kind of fun, and what the 928 does is really nothing like it. The quality of a Mustang isn't how fast it is, stock or otherwise, its how cheap and reliable it is for a given amount of fast.

The whole faster is better mentality is baloney. Guys with 15 second cars laugh at the 16 second cars, and get laughed at by the guys with 14 second cars, and this continues down to about 7 second 1/4 mile street cars at which point it digresses to tenths of a second in the pecking order.

danglerb

I have a Gtech, and I bought the 944T in 87, and the 91 LX Mustang in 92.

I don't drag race, so to me its ALL about the feel. One of the most boring cars I ever drove was an absolute rocket of a turbo car, but I could tell right off it was going to be all tickets and no fun.

Its easy to lose sight to what makes a sports car FUN. Find out what makes your personal boat float, then head for the water.

Cliff Ruckstuhl

I am fully aware of the cost in owning a Porsche and the cost of getting the Maintence up to speed, having done this with my car. I would take my mechinac with me to look at any car and get his personal opnion of the car. I have a line on one kinda local car an should go see it this week. Just need to figure out away to buy it and not let the wife know about it. Any ideas?

I am fully aware of the cars being very different and my 951 will snap your head back. Most weekend's we drive the car about 80 miles to the boat. We sail a J 29 on Lake Erie and really enjoy taken the 951. The 928 will give us some more comfort and a little more room. Would you say the repair cost of a 928 and 951 would be close to the same?

Cliff