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From: Helsinki, Finland
Originally Posted by Alan
Ahh - good catch - I didn't know that - is that the green button on the AC/central lock panel..? seen just one of those in a photo and had no idea what it was...
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It used to be illegal to have two rear fogs in some countries, could still be. Only one should always be on outside lanes side, left on LHD and right on RHD. S4 and later rear lights have lamps on both sides. I'm not sure how one was deleted for these places. Anyway, default is fogs on both sides.
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Originally Posted by Alan
On ROW 1987 its a little push-button switch under the dash somewhere - on the digidash versions (89+) its a dedicated switch next to the variable dash lighting behind the left column stalk.
So you have rear fogs?
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So you have rear fogs?
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Somehow I have the odo-reset in the lowerleft pode switch location, but in messing with the rear lights I had found that one of the driving light spots carries a dual element bulb only on the left side. Thing is, I can't find anything that energizes it. So, absent the fog-light switch where the odo-reset button is........ where would one look??
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Brian - if you don't have the switch there you probably don't have the fogs - maybe Japan didn't allow it. Is the bulb holder in both side a dual filament holder?
Don't know what you mean by rear diring lights - do you mean the markers that come in in the 1st switch position? How many of these do you have illuminate @ the back 2 or 3 - do the brake lights (inside) illuminate in this position or only with the brakes?
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Don't know what you mean by rear diring lights - do you mean the markers that come in in the 1st switch position? How many of these do you have illuminate @ the back 2 or 3 - do the brake lights (inside) illuminate in this position or only with the brakes?
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Originally Posted by BrianG
where would one look??
There can be many different ROW wiring combinations which are not shown in WSM diagrams. Some might have been done by factory while many were market specific requirements done by importer. For example in here it was common to have to rewire some lights at docks up to 10-12 years ago. Didn't make much sense for factory to do different wiring harness just for Finland.
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Erkka - do you have some examples of the kinds of things that were changed for Finland (or others) - just interested to know.... Did the dealers do these changes in some standard way or is this just individual import compliance work...
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Alan, it depended on make and model really.
One example, low beams always on while driving has been requirement in here long before mandatory daytime running lights were even invented elsewhere. Idea is that its easier to realise which cars might be moving when all with engine running do have lights on. Also average weather in here isn't really known for much sunshine anyway.
Some importers changed wiring so that light switch could be left in low beam position and no lights would not be on while key is out. This allowed leaving switch alone without any lights being on when car isn't used. I think normal setup in many period cars will leave parking lights on in this situation.
One example, low beams always on while driving has been requirement in here long before mandatory daytime running lights were even invented elsewhere. Idea is that its easier to realise which cars might be moving when all with engine running do have lights on. Also average weather in here isn't really known for much sunshine anyway.
Some importers changed wiring so that light switch could be left in low beam position and no lights would not be on while key is out. This allowed leaving switch alone without any lights being on when car isn't used. I think normal setup in many period cars will leave parking lights on in this situation.
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I'm still finding some quirks with my 87 japan S4....the odo reset button is under the steering wheel pod as mentioned but i'm wondering if anyone else has a Japan car that came with a roadside flare attached in the passenger footwell ( i thought it was a small fire extinguisher at first!) and a red switch connected into the driver side pod beside the seat, which has the rear hatch opener....on my car, if you pull the red tab out of its socket, the entire electrical system is shut down. I found this out the hard way.
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So all Finnish 928's drive with their frog eyes popped up. Always?
I'd use the fogs as daytime driving lights.
So Finnish cars have the light switch permanently set on the 'On' position?
Wish elk/deer/moose would spot the lights and get off the road.
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I'd use the fogs as daytime driving lights.
So Finnish cars have the light switch permanently set on the 'On' position?
Wish elk/deer/moose would spot the lights and get off the road.
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Originally Posted by ew928
So all Finnish 928's drive with their frog eyes popped up. Always?
I'd use the fogs as daytime driving lights.
I'd use the fogs as daytime driving lights.
Fogs are used by many but its not really legal and police might stop for that. Other option is to install larger wattage bulbs into front parking lights and drive with light switch in I position during daytime and turn it to normal II when it gets dark to get frogs up.
Third and only really legal option is to install separate white or yellow auxillary running lights under front bumber. They are legal during daytime only and must be connected in a way that they will go off when normal driving lights are turned on. Some people have installed those in place of fogs but to make even that fully legal standard ROW fog light wiring needs to be changed also. This '85 had yellow auxillary running lights but owner has changed them recently.
So Finnish cars have the light switch permanently set on the 'On' position?
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Just remembered something else about Euro rear fog lights, well UK for definite and I think Euro
Rear fogs will not light unless front fogs are switched on.
On many european cars (Not 928) the rear fogs will only light if the headlights are switched on (ie position 2 of light switch) and the rear fogs will go off if the left hand stalk is pushed forwards to switch the headlights to full beam (little blue light lit on the dash).
On the 928 the rear fogs will light with light switch at position 1 and stay lit when headlights switched to full beam.
Rear fogs will not light unless front fogs are switched on.
On many european cars (Not 928) the rear fogs will only light if the headlights are switched on (ie position 2 of light switch) and the rear fogs will go off if the left hand stalk is pushed forwards to switch the headlights to full beam (little blue light lit on the dash).
On the 928 the rear fogs will light with light switch at position 1 and stay lit when headlights switched to full beam.
