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Old 11-22-2006, 06:13 AM
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Dear All (1985, US, Auto, 32v)

A few weeks ago I posted about trying to get grubby (read greasy) handprints and oil splotches off of the paint of my white (i.e. pastel beige) 928. I tried all advice and it helped some, but not a whole lot. I was talking to a fellow car nut (,the poor guy like mustangs) and he has a professional vibrating rotary buffer and all the compounds to go with it. I was a little hesitant at first b/c I have heard horror stories of people going right through the clearcoat and burning the paint. If it would have been anyone else I would not have let them try it, but this guy is very knowledgible about such things so I let him demo it on a small spot...WOW was all I could muster. I did not realize how oxidized the CC was; the area glowed like a blushing woman, not to mention all the oil spots came off in about 5 seconds. So I was convinced and we proceded to do the rest of the car. I can hardly believe how much of a difference it made to the apperance of the car. After we finished we sealed it with a high quality wax to prevent degradation of the clearcoat. I had no idea that a white car could shine so much. I got some good pics I think.








I just thought that I would let some people know how dramatic the results can be if they have 20+ year old oxidized paint and wanna fix it.
As a word of caution though, this should not be done on a car but once, maybe twice, in its life time as this process does remove several microns of the clearcoat; and should only be done by those experienced in the process to prevent damage to the paint/CC.
Thanks to all and I hope everyone has a happy Thanksgiving.
I will be here studying for finals whilst most will be eating turkey

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I had no idea that a white car could shine so much
Umm; are you sure that is white? or am I looking at the wrong fotos?
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"pastel beige" Isn't that the one that looks flesh tone. Certainly doesn't look white. Maybe bad camera angle?
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From the description I thought he was talking about Chiffon White, but having seen the pictures, which really do nothing to communicate color, I don't know what color that is! How about some better pics, Rngtrtl? It looks like you've got an interesting color there.
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Look at the engine bay pic. Sure looks like white. hey RngTrtl, do you live in the middle of the woods or something?
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Sorry for the camera angle on the photos, I was trying to show dramatic shine by catching the reflections of the trees in the background. It did'nt dawn on me to take a picture of the car to actually show the paint Ill get on that in a few minutes and post back.

hey RngTrtl, do you live in the middle of the woods or something?
Dude, I live in Mississippi, it all woods here
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Just a quick question-- was the '85 white a clear-coat finish from the factory?


Red from reflections from the carport or is it tungsten lighting with outdoor film??
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Originally Posted by dr bob
Just a quick question-- was the '85 white a clear-coat finish from the factory?
I would think so, somehow I can't imagine Porsche using a single stage paint in the factory. I would think that it is a base coat/clearcoat, however this is pure speculation.

Also, IMHO my paint is neither pastel, or beige for that matter. Why didn't Porsche simply call it white?

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hey what you can do is go to view one of your pics, then right click, properties, the copy the address of the image. Then, in your post just paste the link and put (img)link(/img) except replace the ( ) with [ ].
EDIT: in order for it to work, once you paste the link, delete everything after .jpg

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hey what you can do is go to view one of your pics, then right click, properties, the copy the address of the image. Then, in your post just paste the link and put (img)link(/img) except replace the ( ) with [ ]. What you get is shown below!
Thanks alot for that tip Airflite40, it never occured to me to drop the html in for it and for the compliment as well.
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Guards and India Red have no clear coat from the factory. I think all other colors do though.
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Originally Posted by hinchcliffe
Guards and India Red have no clear coat from the factory. I think all other colors do though.
I have a 1990GT in Guards red. It definantly had clearcoat from the factory. The paint shops I've talked to about repaint confirm that from the paint charts.

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Originally Posted by RngTrtl
I would think so, somehow I can't imagine Porsche using a single stage paint in the factory. I would think that it is a base coat/clearcoat, however this is pure speculation.

Also, IMHO my paint is neither pastel, or beige for that matter. Why didn't Porsche simply call it white?
My 89 Grand Prix White is single stage. Hard as rocks catalyzed enamel. Later in the 90s when paint systems changed, particularly with water-based paint, two-stage became the rule, but MOST solid color paints from the 80s would not have a clear.
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This may have more to do with years of paint than colors. I have an 81 that is guards red that has no clearcoat; however, my 84 Kiln Red Metallic has clearcoat (badly faded tho).
From talking with paint distributors, I understand that the clearcoats came in around in the early 80's (81-83) timeframe. Some earlier others later.

On my 84, I believe the PO tried to "buff out" the drivers side front fender and screwed up because that fender is very very badly faded in just one area. The paint guy tells me I will have to repaint to fix it...but he wants to sell paint.

Anyone here ever try to fix something like this?


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