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Old 09-06-2006, 11:43 AM
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Even though its expensive I would go with the OEM silverknit.....great carpet and it will last a very long time!
Old 09-06-2006, 12:08 PM
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There's some Sliverknit carpets on ebay being sold by the yard (only in black though).
Old 09-06-2006, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AJK
Have you considered a full set of the "new" cocomats?

The advantage is that they never look dirty, wear like iron, bring back your 356 days (maybe) and are relatively inexpensive, though not cheap.

Who sells new cocomats?

Originally Posted by Joe '87 S4
I had my carpet replaced with the OEM Slivernit. It was something like $600 a few years ago. New carpet makes a huge improvement to the look and smell of the interior. If you go with something other than OEM, my advice would be to go with a high quality carpet - you don't want to have to replace it again any time soon. And like in another reply, $600 isn't that much over 20 years. Good luck.

Looks great, who did the installation? Where did you buy the Sliverknit? How is it installed on the door and center tunnel panels?
Old 09-06-2006, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tv
Who sells new cocomats?
TV - I have a set for my '68 912 and love them. They were purchased at http://www.cocomats.com

I'm not so sure they would look as good in our 928's as they are much more modern cars than the vintage ones of the 60's and early 70's?

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Originally Posted by tv
...How is it installed on the door and center tunnel panels?
These carpet sections are glued to the panels, with the edges rolled over and glued. On my '89 S4, the door panel carpets are held on with resin glue from the factory. The tunnel panels are glued with yellow spray contact cement. No clue why they use different adhesives. The yellow spray stuff comes in a few flavors. Consumers can buy 3M 90 adhesive at home centers. Pro's use a liquid version that is applied with a spray gun. Local environmental regs covering VOC's is slowly squeezing the availability of the better solvent-borne adhesives. The resin glue is more time consuming but more environmentally friendly. Better home centers and woodworking supply stores will have the resin glue.

Sometimes marine supply stores will have the yellow liquid adhesive for spray application. If I were doing a whole interior, I'd go that way long before I'd try to do it with spray cans. Spary control is much better with the gun compared to the always-clogging nozzles on the spray cans, and the coverage is much better.
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Originally Posted by touque
TV - I have a set for my '68 912 and love them. They were purchased at http://www.cocomats.com

I'm not so sure they would look as good in our 928's as they are much more modern cars than the vintage ones of the 60's and early 70's?

Troy
When I said "cocomats" and when i saw it here I meant/assumed the floor OEM carpets we have on our floors with that black thick fibrous backing that has dimples in it. I searched and found that site also touque and I agree that stuff would not belong in a 928.

Where can you get that black dimpled padded sliverknit?



Dr. Bob,
I have a tough time imagining how the door panels and tunnel could be done as well as the factory w/o template cut pieces fitting exactly. Rolling edges with that glue, which I have used in other applications, does not seem like a recipe for success.
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I found this;

Originally Posted by Ketchmi
We sell the GAHH Sliverknit for $595 complete...

Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
Hi ,The Gahh kit has carpet that is pre cut and slightly cut big to trim off the excess, the carpet looks great when finished and there are about 25 pieces or so from door panels to the dead pedal to the covers on the sides for the E brake and amp, it is very helpful if the entire interior is removed to recover the various parts, we use the industrial brushable type adhesive, this is a time consuming process but if you do a few pieces a day it wont be too long also you get a chance to do a great detail job on the interior as evrything is out for inspection/cleaning, Stan

Originally Posted by Ketchmi
Sliverknit is the factory original that we charge $595 for...

I will try to get a photo of a set with the backing material posted later today, I'm off to lunch.

Originally Posted by Ketchmi

Sterling, we use Dap HHR Solvent type, Spray grade contact cement. It says it's for Landau tops and trim but we have been told by many more experienced folks than us that it's the stuff to use. I use disposable brushes in 1" and 2" sizes for application. The smell goes away after a week or two...
Originally Posted by WallyP
If you go to our On-Line store, you will find complete sets, floor sets, and carpet by the yard...

BUT still NO pics! I would like to see pics with a coin stuck in the pile of the carpeting close up to see the depth and texture and I want to see the floor carpet pieces with the black dimples.
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Originally Posted by dr bob
Sometimes marine supply stores will have the yellow liquid adhesive for spray application. If I were doing a whole interior, I'd go that way long before I'd try to do it with spray cans. Spary control is much better with the gun compared to the always-clogging nozzles on the spray cans, and the coverage is much better.
Did total overhaul using 3 spray cans. No problem's what so ever..... It's now stayed in place for almost 2 years. In my boat I used the yellow liquid stuff, and found it a bit difficult to work with - it was just to sticky, no 2 chance to correct.....!!!!!
Old 09-06-2006, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tv
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Dr. Bob,
I have a tough time imagining how the door panels and tunnel could be done as well as the factory w/o template cut pieces fitting exactly. Rolling edges with that glue, which I have used in other applications, does not seem like a recipe for success.
It's a two-step process. Glue the face, and clamp the carpet while the adhesive sets. I have a few sets of those plastic gripper clamps, and I use paint stirring sticks to distribute the pressure. If you are cutting your own carpets, cut the edges 3/4" outside of the edge of the panel after the face glue dries. Then, with the carpet and panel on the table carpet-face down, spray the edge and the edge of the carpet. Let it set per the directions so it's dry, 15 mins or so. Then another light spray to tack, again per the instructions. Roll the edges, and clamp them carefully. For the edges, use the stirring stick on the face of the carpet again, with metal binder clamps (from the stationery store or the office supplies section at Wal-Mart...) along the whole edge you are gluing. Let it set overnight to dry before installing.

Gluing the front face and allowing it to dry completely is critical. If you try to glue the rolled edges while the front face is less than cured, the edges will lift and it will look funny. Th binder clamps put a LOT of squeeze on the rolled edge joint at the same time that they maintain pressure on the edges of the face. No rolls, no bubbling. The stirring sticks mean the clamps do no damage to the face of the carpet, kind of important with Sliverknit.
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Originally Posted by Pfunde
Did total overhaul using 3 spray cans. No problem's what so ever..... It's now stayed in place for almost 2 years. In my boat I used the yellow liquid stuff, and found it a bit difficult to work with - it was just to sticky, no 2 chance to correct.....!!!!!

The reason I like the liquid, sprayed on, is that 'too sticky' is barely enough in a black car in Los Angeles. As far as no 2nd chance to correct, you're right. I cut sheets of waxed paper to put between the glued surfaces during fit up. Loosely clamp the corners and edges with the wax paper in there, then pull the waxed paper a section at a time while maintaining the correct positions of all the parts with the clamps. Doing this without the help of clamps and slip sheets is almost impossible for the reasons you state. Larger panels get started in the middle after all the edges have been aligned. Work your way out without bubbles or pockets behind the carpets, and resist the urge to pull or stretch the carpet as you lay it on the backing. Stretching deforms the carpet, almost guaranteeing that you'll have a roll or a bubble lift there later. Patience is most important, that's for sure.
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Thanks Dr. Bob for that great info. My need is just the black dimpled backed floor sections and I have yet to hear who sells that.
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Originally Posted by Giovanni
There's some Sliverknit carpets on ebay being sold by the yard (only in black though).
That looks like it could be the way to go. Fortunately, I am looking for black carpet. Does anybody know how many yards I would need to purchase?

Originally Posted by eBay auction
This material is sold by the running yard, the width is approx 59" This means that each running yard you purchase is 36" x 59"

Most shops need to special order this material and charge upwards of $70 per yard. We have a large quanitity in stock and can ship it out right away!

Purchase only the number of yards you need. A typical 911 requires 5-6 yards
Thanks,

Casey
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Does the Sliverknit come with some sort of backing? I'm assuming the carpet on eBay doesn't have any backing. I really have no idea.
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Originally Posted by tv
Looks great, who did the installation? Where did you buy the Sliverknit? How is it installed on the door and center tunnel panels?
I ordered the carpet through Devek and George Young (previous PHAT928 owner) did the installation. As far as I know, it's almost entirely glued on. Others on the board have replaced the carpet themselves and can give you all the fun details. It seems to take a lot of patience and time do have it done correctly. The carpet itself is very soft to the touch and I thought it would get matted fairly quickly but it looks just as nice today as it did when it was installed 4 years ago. It's worth paying for the good quality stuff.
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I’m totally sold on the Silvernet, anybody else have more ideas, suggestions, or pictures on how best to install carpeting? Any tips on removing the old carpet would also be appreciated.

Carpeting, drivers door hinge, and a subwoofer are high on the list for this coming off-season. That plus a flexplate adjust, new brakes, new fuel lines and a fire extinguisher install. I’m guessing more than a few people around here can suggest typical repairs and upgrades one would/should expect to perform and help prioritize them.

I know, it’s not just a destination… it the journey that matters. Where to begin and where to end is up to each individual to decide. I find myself adding more and more with no end in sight. The toughest part is prioritizing what to do first. I’m still longing for the days when wax on… wax off was the primary game plan. Then again, learning about all the other aspects of the car is so intriguing!


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