Carbon Fiber Intake's
07-05-2006, 02:56 PM
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Carbon Fiber Intake's
For those interested, the 928 developments/ Phil Threshie carbon fiber intakes will be up for sale soon, in both single and dual plenum. We are currently taking deposits, and will have finished products in about 3-4 weeks.
We hope to have the dyno results very soon for the single plenum and already have the results for the dual plenum (the same one that is being run on Mark Andersons 928)
For more information visit RS Racing Develeopments at http://www.rsdevelopments.net
For 911 owners, please refer to 911developments at http://www.911developments.com we are in the process of developing a carbon fiber intake for all 911 models.
We are located on Mare Island, CA (adjacent to Vallejo) Anyone "in the neighborhood" is welcome to drop by our new 12000 sq.ft. facility.
We hope to have the dyno results very soon for the single plenum and already have the results for the dual plenum (the same one that is being run on Mark Andersons 928)
For more information visit RS Racing Develeopments at http://www.rsdevelopments.net
For 911 owners, please refer to 911developments at http://www.911developments.com we are in the process of developing a carbon fiber intake for all 911 models.
We are located on Mare Island, CA (adjacent to Vallejo) Anyone "in the neighborhood" is welcome to drop by our new 12000 sq.ft. facility.
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07-05-2006, 03:14 PM
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I'm assuming the cost falls under "If you have to ask"
07-05-2006, 03:38 PM
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I was mostly just wondering about performance/tuning issue comparisons and if I'd have to lose any creature comforts (ie AC/cruise control/etc)...
I' suspect some blower kits would be less by the time you're done w/tuning, fitting/fabbing linkages, hoses, etc... but us NA guys are used to spending 3x per HP more than you FI gents, so we keep a tube of magic gel handy whenever we open the hood... hahahhhaa
I' suspect some blower kits would be less by the time you're done w/tuning, fitting/fabbing linkages, hoses, etc... but us NA guys are used to spending 3x per HP more than you FI gents, so we keep a tube of magic gel handy whenever we open the hood... hahahhhaa
07-05-2006, 03:42 PM
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Can you please give an approximate cost for each intake type? Also, will the manifolds require additional fabrication for throttle linkage, MAF, filter, etc?
I'm glad to hear there will be dyno charts, something Phil never offered even though he tried to sell the single plenum without one. Without a before and after dyno chart, I would not consider buying any piece of hardware, especially an intake.
I'm glad to hear there will be dyno charts, something Phil never offered even though he tried to sell the single plenum without one. Without a before and after dyno chart, I would not consider buying any piece of hardware, especially an intake.
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07-05-2006, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
I'm assuming the cost falls under "If you have to ask"
07-05-2006, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingDog
Does not being a sponsor mean they do not hae to put pricing.
07-05-2006, 04:38 PM
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Prices are listed on their website if you follow the links.
The advantage of the CF intake over the ITB set up is that it would be easier to mate up the stock LH injection system. Just run a snorkel off the oval throttle body to an outboard mounted MAF.
I have Louie's ITB set up, and while I'm going to try to mate up the stock MAF system (meaning I'll have to fabricate a plenum box), ultimately I'm probably going to have to go to a stand alone system.
The advantage of the CF intake over the ITB set up is that it would be easier to mate up the stock LH injection system. Just run a snorkel off the oval throttle body to an outboard mounted MAF.
I have Louie's ITB set up, and while I'm going to try to mate up the stock MAF system (meaning I'll have to fabricate a plenum box), ultimately I'm probably going to have to go to a stand alone system.
07-05-2006, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by atb
Prices are listed on their website if you follow the links.
The advantage of the CF intake over the ITB set up is that it would be easier to mate up the stock LH injection system. Just run a snorkel off the oval throttle body to an outboard mounted MAF.
I have Louie's ITB set up, and while I'm going to try to mate up the stock MAF system (meaning I'll have to fabricate a plenum box), ultimately I'm probably going to have to go to a stand alone system.
07-05-2006, 05:47 PM
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Hey SwayBar,
I think Louie would agree with you that his ITB set up wouldn't be of much benefit to a stock 5.0 L. He is running fairly short air horns for the very purpose you stated, to keep his stroker's the low end from blowing up gear boxes. I'm looking to maintain some of the torque (I've got an A/T) and will probably be going for longer horns, kind of like what was on the previous generation M5. The main objective of the ITB system was to get enough air to the stroker motors above 5K. All of the stroker dyno sheets before the ITB set up shows a severe flattening of the HP curve at this point, with the stroker engines really falling flat at 6500rpms. The ITB HP curve by contrast shows continued gains up to redline (and probably beyond).
As far as tuning, well hopefully with Louie's dyno being completed sometime soon and John Speake just an email away, it won't be too bad.
I think Louie would agree with you that his ITB set up wouldn't be of much benefit to a stock 5.0 L. He is running fairly short air horns for the very purpose you stated, to keep his stroker's the low end from blowing up gear boxes. I'm looking to maintain some of the torque (I've got an A/T) and will probably be going for longer horns, kind of like what was on the previous generation M5. The main objective of the ITB system was to get enough air to the stroker motors above 5K. All of the stroker dyno sheets before the ITB set up shows a severe flattening of the HP curve at this point, with the stroker engines really falling flat at 6500rpms. The ITB HP curve by contrast shows continued gains up to redline (and probably beyond).
As far as tuning, well hopefully with Louie's dyno being completed sometime soon and John Speake just an email away, it won't be too bad.
07-05-2006, 07:46 PM
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We need to get one of the dual or single throttle body versions on a stock S4. there are the BMWs that have this kind of CF intake system and they are getting 330rwhp out of a 3.2 liter!! Im sure with the intake path opened up and tuned a bit, 30-40rwhp gain should be common.
as i found out racing, the broad HP curve or the torque peak in the 3300rpm range is kind of useless when racing, however nice for street driving. Ive personally removed the flappy and been Happy!
i would imagine the short runner, big intake should be more of the same.
needing more HP!
MK
as i found out racing, the broad HP curve or the torque peak in the 3300rpm range is kind of useless when racing, however nice for street driving. Ive personally removed the flappy and been Happy!
i would imagine the short runner, big intake should be more of the same.
needing more HP!
MK
07-05-2006, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by atb
Prices are listed on their website if you follow the links.
The advantage of the CF intake over the ITB set up is that it would be easier to mate up the stock LH injection system. Just run a snorkel off the oval throttle body to an outboard mounted MAF.
I have Louie's ITB set up, and while I'm going to try to mate up the stock MAF system (meaning I'll have to fabricate a plenum box), ultimately I'm probably going to have to go to a stand alone system.
The advantage of the CF intake over the ITB set up is that it would be easier to mate up the stock LH injection system. Just run a snorkel off the oval throttle body to an outboard mounted MAF.
I have Louie's ITB set up, and while I'm going to try to mate up the stock MAF system (meaning I'll have to fabricate a plenum box), ultimately I'm probably going to have to go to a stand alone system.
With John Speake's ST the LH & EZ-K have new life. The dyno is working and I'm tuning my S4 now to get familiar with the dyno and also the ST. A few bugs to work out with the dyno. No bugs in the ST. Next will be tuning on the Weißes Tier.