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Old 04-17-2006, 12:27 PM
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Phone call inbound.........BTW is a MAF swap hard to handle?
Old 04-17-2006, 02:32 PM
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MAF swap is very easy......just pull the airbox & bottom piece (two bolts plus possibly a third holding the airpumpline on (most have been removed)....then take a long screwdriver to release the clamp on the bottom of the MAF...it comes right out! 20 minutes tops! I tried it on mine to track down an odd starting problem.... MAF was fine..still looking for other causes
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its not a flappy problem either. the curves just miss a hump, but from 3700rpm to redline, would be unaffected.
It looks like you are shifting gears (but i know you are not) on the dyno graph, could it have been a transmission issue , since its an automatic?

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Originally Posted by mark kibort
its not a flappy problem either. the curves just miss a hump, but from 3700rpm to redline, would be unaffected.
It looks like you are shifting gears (but i know you are not) on the dyno graph, could it have been a transmission issue , since its an automatic?

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Tranny is great not a problem remember this only happen at WOT it I pull the throttle back to less then 3/4 it runs like a scalded dog.

The dyno guy was having to gently apply throttle as to no let the tranny shift down when the throttle got to 3/4 it crapped on itself and went hell and a hand basket
Old 04-17-2006, 03:05 PM
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To properly run an Auto on the dyno...you need to disconnect the Bowden cable off the intake throttle linkage....upper outside cable on the assembly..and reach under the gas pedal and pull the kickdown switch connector. That way you can manually put the car into 3....and make your run from 2200 or so rpm..without worrying about the kickdown.....

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Old 04-17-2006, 06:16 PM
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Every dyno I've had involved disabling the kickdown for AT cars, exactly as Tom mentions. Makes me really wonder about this shop.
Old 04-17-2006, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Loaded
Tranny is great not a problem remember this only happen at WOT it I pull the throttle back to less then 3/4 it runs like a scalded dog.
I'd guess it's your chips. When the WOT switch kicks in, your car switches to open loop and runs off of set maps (not full rich as Bill said) in the chips. Bill said in his post above the WOT switch kicks in at around 2/3. Well 2/3 and 3/4 aren't too far apart. You're probably lifting your foot enough to turn off the WOT switch and go back to closed loop. Of course this could also be a MAF issue because in open loop you no longer have the O2 correcting for bad MAF readings.
Old 04-17-2006, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Every dyno I've had involved disabling the kickdown for AT cars, exactly as Tom mentions. Makes me really wonder about this shop.

This shop is a race shop. They design, build, and test race cars. I would be willing to bet that these were the first automatics they ever tested. If something had to be done differently for an automatic tranny, they might not have known that. No need to wonder about this shop, they are very good at what they do. They just don't do automatic trannys.
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Fair enough. I was just adding things up after seeing all the strangely low numbers. One low set, bad car, but several low, makes you wonder.
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The bottom line is that they didn't do it correctly.
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Originally Posted by jakermc
They just don't do automatic trannys.
Nobody should.
Old 04-17-2006, 08:09 PM
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Heh!
Old 04-17-2006, 10:27 PM
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AH geeeeee,,,,,,,,make sme wish i had 5 more autos!
Old 04-18-2006, 01:31 AM
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I disconnected the Kickdown switch on mine.
Did not know or could not remember which cable to disconnect.
Off to the original dyno on Thursday to check my car out and hopefully get a smile back on my face.
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Old 04-18-2006, 03:22 AM
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Rog100, it must be that having so many 928s confuses you. Which one should I drive? Jeeze, I thought I had a green one too! Wait, do I have 7 or 8 of them? Problems, problems...

Anyway, the Bowden cable that you want to pop off is the upper outside one on the throttle quadrant. So, just remember: upper, outer.


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