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Old 04-29-2008, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Aryan
Just about to do this..so can I remove the lift hook on the front of the engine without problems? Can't see how to reach the nuts on the back of the hook otherwise..
I don't think you need to remove the hook.

I did mine 2 weeks ago and I did't have to remove it. I only needed to bend it a little bit to the right.

The only problem was the fuel line right behind it that was in the way. I also did't have to remove it.

It took me about 2 hours to do the job (first time).

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They are marked on the tbelt covers (on my GT and 91 S4 motor in the track car)..so if you know which cylinder is which then its pretty easy. Passenger side bank 1,2,3,4 with 4 being at the firewall and drivers side 5, 6, 7, and 8 with 8 being at the firewall.... Look on your tbelt cover for the matching cylinder on the rotor cap...
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Originally Posted by Aryan
Just about to do this..so can I remove the lift hook on the front of the engine without problems? Can't see how to reach the nuts on the back of the hook otherwise..
Aryan, if you mean the one in the front-centre on the water pump, yes.

As a handy tip, if you've bought the economy wires without the guides and beru ends pre-attached, don't clip the guides shut until you've routed the wires.. being able to take up the slack where needed it helpful.
Old 04-29-2008, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Xlot
Aryan, if you mean the one in the front-centre on the water pump, yes.

As a handy tip, if you've bought the economy wires without the guides and beru ends pre-attached, don't clip the guides shut until you've routed the wires.. being able to take up the slack where needed it helpful.

+1. I was thinking about the one on the right side of the engine.

Sorry. My mistake.
Old 04-29-2008, 07:18 PM
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I knew it wasn't a lift hook for the engine

I meant the hook on the waterpump. Ok so I can remove it without any adverse effects. Got it, thanks

I have a complete set, so it should be a piece of cake - actually that's what I always think until something is stuck or breaks off..
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Speaking of wires, who makes the best ones for our 928's?

Michael, what make are those red ones you used? Would you recommend them, or use a different wire set next time?
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Stan,
I have sets of Beru wires only for your car for $119. Red & Black. Includes the coil wires.
You reuse the ends.
Complete sets of Beru wires are $365 a set.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cold_beer839
Speaking of wires, who makes the best ones for our 928's?

Michael, what make are those red ones you used? Would you recommend them, or use a different wire set next time?

Talk about bringing back an old thread, wow, nice use of the search function guys


David,

Mine are Nology's and sold by most of the 928 suppliers IIRC but I could be wrong. There is an ongoing debate as to which is better/best. IMO anything is better than 20yo wires, the rest is just preference. The Nology's have a much thicker shielding around the internal cable (part of the reason it was so hard to squeeze them along the factory paths) and have ground wires that are bolted onto the cam covers or another grounding point if you can find them.

The least expensive alternative is as Rog mentions and just replace the wires and re-use your existing caps. As you pull back the factory rubber caps you will see that there is a screw holding the wires in there. Remove screw and replace wire. As Andy mentioned earlier this should take a LOT less time as you should be able to just lace the new wires one at a time right thru where you just pulled the last one out of.

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I just did this last night, along w/ replacing plugs, caps, and rotors. What a ball-buster... took me a while too, longer than I expected. S4 was waaaay harder than 16v which was pretty easy.
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Roger,

Does the econo Beru set come with the sections of thick insulation like the originals?

Price is $119 for the S4?
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Originally Posted by cold_beer839
Roger,

Does the econo Beru set come with the sections of thick insulation like the originals?

Price is $119 for the S4?
No, the economy set is just the leads themselves with the crimped-on brass ends that screw into the original connectors.

I used some cheap fuel hose to replace the original insulation with, on the grounds that it will hold up well to grease/oil etc. (5/16ths, or maybe 3/8? was around the 8mm mark).



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