928 vs Corvette: Ready, set, go...
02-17-2006, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
Welded spider gears?!?!?!?! Was he able to turn with that at all? I bet the outside tires were screaming every time he made a sharp turn. That's a dangerous "ghetto mod" !
Brrr.....Brrr......Brrrr......Brrr around every corner.
Seriously, it's no different than running a full locker rear, and people do run those on the street too. I think they're all nuts, lol.
02-17-2006, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kshipp
I think it was 1987 when the first Turbo came out - 230 hp. It was labeled as the "Corvette-killer".
I had an '84 Supra and LOVED it. Beautiful car. It was fun to drive - heavy but fast. Of course, no comparison to the 928.
Another irony of 928 comparison was that there were no Supra's produced in 1992.
I had an '84 Supra and LOVED it. Beautiful car. It was fun to drive - heavy but fast. Of course, no comparison to the 928.
Another irony of 928 comparison was that there were no Supra's produced in 1992.
That's a blast to ride in, lemme tell ya....
I think he ran a high 8 last year. Don't really remember, i havn't talked to him in several months.
02-17-2006, 02:50 PM
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There was a post a few years back on a convert from vette to 928. He had a vette and decided to "play" with the 928... in his words the 928 kept up with him in the vette to about 100-110 and then just disappeared into the night...
02-17-2006, 03:29 PM
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I had an 85 Omni GLH, then an 86 GLHS. IIRC the 85 was 146hp stock and the 86 Shelby was 175 hp &tq stock. I modified both (of course). The Shelby was about 225-250 hp in a less than 2500 pound car. It was a high 13 sec car that I drove to an indicated 150 mph, stock was 0-60 6.5 sec 14.8 qtr mile, 130 top speed. It handled well, especially for cars of that era, very "tossable" in the corners but interesting torque steer. The Omni GLHS is a car I wouldn't mind owning again.
02-17-2006, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CMW
There was a post a few years back on a convert from vette to 928. He had a vette and decided to "play" with the 928... in his words the 928 kept up with him in the vette to about 100-110 and then just disappeared into the night...
02-17-2006, 04:07 PM
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My friend purchased a '84 S brand spankin' new, guards red w/black leather, 5-sp loaded... it was about mid-'84.
Shortly after he purchased an '85 Vette 5sp with the new tuned-port injection that was supposed to be "it", and I have to say it felt quite fast. 928 would barely lose at launch but walk away by 3rd and you didn't notice the speed 'til ~120. Switch drivers/cars and consistent results time after time. Still, driving/riding in both, you'd swear the Vette was faster.
A year later, he purchased a '86 328GTS F-car. Fun, targa top, ferrari fast. The shark ate it quite convincingly, not a by that much, but consistently time after time. Loved driving that thing, but definitely took a LOT more focus to go fast.
Neighborhood friend picked up a HEMI 'Cuda... I think '70 MY, 383 AAR slap-stick and crazy fast with the nitrous. Always bad mouthed the 928 as over-rated and not much fun; especially not the adrenaline rush his 'Cuda delivered. My friend took him for a "fun ride" in the shark, roasting the P7's into 3rd for flash and then took him to ~130 for the exclamation point. Upon return, the neighborhood kid got out astonished and said simply, "Man, I was really wrong about your car". Sure, he knew his 'Cuda would crush a drag race, but the fact that you could lay down twin-stripers into 3rd for show yet so effortlessly pass 100 while comfortably rocking out to Hagar, gave him a new understanding of why "fast" is a relative term.
In the short time I've had my '86, I've come to appreciate how much fun it is to drive aggressively in comfort. The car likes to go fast, I know, but the way it does it, so composed and relaxed, really turns up the enjoyment factor even though it's not the fastest thing on the road.
Shortly after he purchased an '85 Vette 5sp with the new tuned-port injection that was supposed to be "it", and I have to say it felt quite fast. 928 would barely lose at launch but walk away by 3rd and you didn't notice the speed 'til ~120. Switch drivers/cars and consistent results time after time. Still, driving/riding in both, you'd swear the Vette was faster.
A year later, he purchased a '86 328GTS F-car. Fun, targa top, ferrari fast. The shark ate it quite convincingly, not a by that much, but consistently time after time. Loved driving that thing, but definitely took a LOT more focus to go fast.
Neighborhood friend picked up a HEMI 'Cuda... I think '70 MY, 383 AAR slap-stick and crazy fast with the nitrous. Always bad mouthed the 928 as over-rated and not much fun; especially not the adrenaline rush his 'Cuda delivered. My friend took him for a "fun ride" in the shark, roasting the P7's into 3rd for flash and then took him to ~130 for the exclamation point. Upon return, the neighborhood kid got out astonished and said simply, "Man, I was really wrong about your car". Sure, he knew his 'Cuda would crush a drag race, but the fact that you could lay down twin-stripers into 3rd for show yet so effortlessly pass 100 while comfortably rocking out to Hagar, gave him a new understanding of why "fast" is a relative term.
In the short time I've had my '86, I've come to appreciate how much fun it is to drive aggressively in comfort. The car likes to go fast, I know, but the way it does it, so composed and relaxed, really turns up the enjoyment factor even though it's not the fastest thing on the road.
02-17-2006, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by m21sniper
My dad had a worked '66 427 L72 Big Block vette 4 speed that was absolutely terrifying wrt straight line performance.
Didn't turn or stop for crap though(compared to a 928, though in it's day it was probably considered to be pretty good at both)...especially with the welded spider gears.
I remember when he first got it(and i was but a boy at the time, this is probably around 1976 or 77) and my uncle came over to check it out. At the time my uncle had a 1970 Plymouth GTX 440, which were nasty beasts in their own right.
Anyway, my old man tosses him the keys to take the vette for a ride, my uncle hops in, puts down the street, makes a slow right to get onto the 2 lane 'main' road, and nails it. We could hear the motor from the next block(headers and glasspack exhaust) TEAR down the block, then suddenly all went quiet.
About 5 minutes goes by and my uncle comes walking back around the block, keys held up high in front of him. He walks right up to my dad and says, "I left it parked around the corner. That car has no business even being on the street".
My dad took it to ATCO like 2 weeks later and it ran a 10.50et with slicks.
Didn't turn or stop for crap though(compared to a 928, though in it's day it was probably considered to be pretty good at both)...especially with the welded spider gears.
I remember when he first got it(and i was but a boy at the time, this is probably around 1976 or 77) and my uncle came over to check it out. At the time my uncle had a 1970 Plymouth GTX 440, which were nasty beasts in their own right.
Anyway, my old man tosses him the keys to take the vette for a ride, my uncle hops in, puts down the street, makes a slow right to get onto the 2 lane 'main' road, and nails it. We could hear the motor from the next block(headers and glasspack exhaust) TEAR down the block, then suddenly all went quiet.
About 5 minutes goes by and my uncle comes walking back around the block, keys held up high in front of him. He walks right up to my dad and says, "I left it parked around the corner. That car has no business even being on the street".
My dad took it to ATCO like 2 weeks later and it ran a 10.50et with slicks.
02-17-2006, 04:21 PM
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anonymousagian: i know exactly what you mean. when i had my 83 euro in the shop for a t-belt and water pump change i was driving my bmw 535 modded. and it felt alot faster than my shark. until one day i was driving on the interstate. and spotting a black 928 S2. he was just floating along. while i was trying to keep up his engine never went into bwaaaaaah mode. and he was pulling away from my car with ease. and i was looking stupid having my engine rev so high to keep cruising with this beast. even thought we were not racing just sprinting along to work it was impressive. thats why i think alot of guys dont even try us. because of the (1 ) the engine sound and (2) the effortless acceleration keeps them thinking what does he have on tap. most turbo cars have to stay on boost to cruise with us
02-17-2006, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by anonymousagain
My friend purchased a '84 S brand spankin' new, guards red w/black leather, 5-sp loaded... it was about mid-'84.
Shortly after he purchased an '85 Vette 5sp with the new tuned-port injection that was supposed to be "it", and I have to say it felt quite fast. 928 would barely lose at launch but walk away by 3rd and you didn't notice the speed 'til ~120. Switch drivers/cars and consistent results time after time. Still, driving/riding in both, you'd swear the Vette was faster.
A year later, he purchased a '86 328GTS F-car. Fun, targa top, ferrari fast. The shark ate it quite convincingly, not a by that much, but consistently time after time. Loved driving that thing, but definitely took a LOT more focus to go fast.
Neighborhood friend picked up a HEMI 'Cuda... I think '70 MY, 383 AAR slap-stick and crazy fast with the nitrous. Always bad mouthed the 928 as over-rated and not much fun; especially not the adrenaline rush his 'Cuda delivered. My friend took him for a "fun ride" in the shark, roasting the P7's into 3rd for flash and then took him to ~130 for the exclamation point. Upon return, the neighborhood kid got out astonished and said simply, "Man, I was really wrong about your car". Sure, he knew his 'Cuda would crush a drag race, but the fact that you could lay down twin-stripers into 3rd for show yet so effortlessly pass 100 while comfortably rocking out to Hagar, gave him a new understanding of why "fast" is a relative term.
In the short time I've had my '86, I've come to appreciate how much fun it is to drive aggressively in comfort. The car likes to go fast, I know, but the way it does it, so composed and relaxed, really turns up the enjoyment factor even though it's not the fastest thing on the road.
Shortly after he purchased an '85 Vette 5sp with the new tuned-port injection that was supposed to be "it", and I have to say it felt quite fast. 928 would barely lose at launch but walk away by 3rd and you didn't notice the speed 'til ~120. Switch drivers/cars and consistent results time after time. Still, driving/riding in both, you'd swear the Vette was faster.
A year later, he purchased a '86 328GTS F-car. Fun, targa top, ferrari fast. The shark ate it quite convincingly, not a by that much, but consistently time after time. Loved driving that thing, but definitely took a LOT more focus to go fast.
Neighborhood friend picked up a HEMI 'Cuda... I think '70 MY, 383 AAR slap-stick and crazy fast with the nitrous. Always bad mouthed the 928 as over-rated and not much fun; especially not the adrenaline rush his 'Cuda delivered. My friend took him for a "fun ride" in the shark, roasting the P7's into 3rd for flash and then took him to ~130 for the exclamation point. Upon return, the neighborhood kid got out astonished and said simply, "Man, I was really wrong about your car". Sure, he knew his 'Cuda would crush a drag race, but the fact that you could lay down twin-stripers into 3rd for show yet so effortlessly pass 100 while comfortably rocking out to Hagar, gave him a new understanding of why "fast" is a relative term.
In the short time I've had my '86, I've come to appreciate how much fun it is to drive aggressively in comfort. The car likes to go fast, I know, but the way it does it, so composed and relaxed, really turns up the enjoyment factor even though it's not the fastest thing on the road.
PS...the AARs from 1970, were 340 cars. So...if thats what your "neighborhood friend" picked up...it was a 340 6 pack car rated at 290 HP SAE... FYI
02-17-2006, 04:47 PM
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Another irony of 928 comparison was that there were no Supra's produced in 1992
I have a 92 Supra Turbo! 92 was the last year of the Mark III, and the Mark IV (body style like in F&F) started production in 93.
02-17-2006, 05:16 PM
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Jeff - obviously no pics of his 'Cuda, but this one is close http://www.russoandsteele.com/collec..._383/6043.html except his had a black hood and stripes all the way down the side to the back that IIRC said HEMI and it was HEMI red. Don't recall where the AAR labels were (maybe that's what it said at the rear of the stripe), but definitely a selling point for him when he got it. I'm not a Chrysler fan so I believe you if it couldn't be a HEMI...maybe the HEMI/AAR aspect was PO's rebadging? Don't know, but it was definitely a 383 w/nitrous, and too fast for the street. PO claimed 10sec 1/4mi and that all the street bikes in his garage were from pink races, but no way to verify. Saw him smoke a very clean '69 Goat Ram-air like it was standing still.
As for the 928 stripes, right in front of his house, 1st, 2nd, ~5ft of 3rd. Good P7's as well. Stayed on the street for quite some time too.
As for the 928 stripes, right in front of his house, 1st, 2nd, ~5ft of 3rd. Good P7's as well. Stayed on the street for quite some time too.
02-17-2006, 06:23 PM
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Is this the Vette story that you're speaking of?
From Greg Nichols 928 tips website
"In 1979, Having recently picked up my newly restored '72 LT-1 'Vette. 350hp, Johnny Winters preped Turbo-400 transmission with 3.53:1 rear. I was on my way home at 3:00 am., when a '78 or '79 928 pulled along side. I dusted him from 60-120. Then, he downshifted, the rear end squatted, and away he went. It was then I knew what my next car would be. Haven't looked back since. Ya' had a bad day Steven. But a GREAT car! Porsche uber alles!
Dave '85 S Auto Schieferblau uber Dunkelblau."
From Greg Nichols 928 tips website
"In 1979, Having recently picked up my newly restored '72 LT-1 'Vette. 350hp, Johnny Winters preped Turbo-400 transmission with 3.53:1 rear. I was on my way home at 3:00 am., when a '78 or '79 928 pulled along side. I dusted him from 60-120. Then, he downshifted, the rear end squatted, and away he went. It was then I knew what my next car would be. Haven't looked back since. Ya' had a bad day Steven. But a GREAT car! Porsche uber alles!
Dave '85 S Auto Schieferblau uber Dunkelblau."
02-17-2006, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by anonymousagain
In the short time I've had my '86, I've come to appreciate how much fun it is to drive aggressively in comfort. The car likes to go fast, I know, but the way it does it, so composed and relaxed, really turns up the enjoyment factor even though it's not the fastest thing on the road.
I'm not sure there's not another vehicle TODAY that can deliver the comfort, confidence and speed - all primed the same time, as the 928 does.
