Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

Anchor Motor Mounts $18 each

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-12-2007, 01:39 PM
  #241  
SharkSkin
Rennlist Member
 
SharkSkin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
Posts: 12,620
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by danglerb
My point was that motor shocks might be more suited to a MM that allowed more movement instead of the solid.
And BTW, because you seem to have missed it more than once, the shocks were originally fitted to cars with solid mounts.
Old 01-12-2007, 11:30 PM
  #242  
danglerb
Nordschleife Master
 
danglerb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Orange, Cal
Posts: 8,575
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Now that you point it out I see it, but just paid no attention to the holes in the middle the first look, just the leak arrow.

Were the shocks on the old style MM or the new?
Old 01-13-2007, 09:49 AM
  #243  
ROG100
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

Thread Starter
 
ROG100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Double Oak, TX
Posts: 16,837
Received 896 Likes on 341 Posts
Default

Dave,
In that post I said there were three cavities - actually there are only two - my bad.
The top cavity is open to atmosphere via a hole.
So the larger middle cavity which is divided by the perforated metal membrane is what contains the fluid. The amount of fluid removed from the new mount was not enough to fill the cavity completely.
The fluid moving between the two sides of the cavity through the membrane must have some attenuation properties.
The theory was good - in practice not so good because of the premature failure.
Checked two cars this week and the mounts were toast - an 86.5 with 60k and an 87.
Roger
__________________

Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission? George Layton March 2014

928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."






Old 01-13-2007, 03:15 PM
  #244  
SharkSkin
Rennlist Member
 
SharkSkin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
Posts: 12,620
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ROG100
Dave,
In that post I said there were three cavities - actually there are only two - my bad.
The top cavity is open to atmosphere via a hole.
So the larger middle cavity which is divided by the perforated metal membrane is what contains the fluid. The amount of fluid removed from the new mount was not enough to fill the cavity completely.
The fluid moving between the two sides of the cavity through the membrane must have some attenuation properties.
The theory was good - in practice not so good because of the premature failure.
Checked two cars this week and the mounts were toast - an 86.5 with 60k and an 87.
Roger
Thanks Roger, that's kind of what I figured....
Old 01-13-2007, 03:18 PM
  #245  
SharkSkin
Rennlist Member
 
SharkSkin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
Posts: 12,620
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by danglerb
Were the shocks on the old style MM or the new?
Old 01-13-2007, 05:30 PM
  #246  
danglerb
Nordschleife Master
 
danglerb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Orange, Cal
Posts: 8,575
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ROG100
Checked two cars this week and the mounts were toast - an 86.5 with 60k and an 87.
Roger
Which kind and brand were they?

My question on the motor shock is which type of MM, the newer round style, 83+ I think, or the older style were they used with. Hard to believe that Porsche removed without good reason.
Old 01-08-2010, 01:10 AM
  #247  
namasgt
Three Wheelin'
 
namasgt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 1,675
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Very good thread, some interesting research. Is there any picture of a Porsche MM cut open to compare the inside structure/design to the Ford hydraulic one Roger posted.
Old 01-08-2010, 10:41 AM
  #248  
ROG100
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

Thread Starter
 
ROG100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Double Oak, TX
Posts: 16,837
Received 896 Likes on 341 Posts
Default

"ask and you shall receive"
Attached Images  
Old 01-08-2010, 10:44 AM
  #249  
ROG100
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

Thread Starter
 
ROG100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Double Oak, TX
Posts: 16,837
Received 896 Likes on 341 Posts
Default

The Porsche MM is totally dependant on the small amount of rubber and the water to make it work.
Once the water leaks out the MM is no good at all.
Even the Ford hydraulic would be better than the Porsche one.
I wish I could afford to cut open a new Porsche MM to compare.
Old 01-08-2010, 10:54 AM
  #250  
Imo000
Captain Obvious
Super User
 
Imo000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,846
Received 339 Likes on 245 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ROG100
The Porsche MM is totally dependant on the small amount of rubber and the water to make it work.
Once the water leaks out the MM is no good at all.
Even the Ford hydraulic would be better than the Porsche one.
I wish I could afford to cut open a new Porsche MM to compare.
How about cutting an old collapsed Porsche mount apart? It would at least give you an idea what the internal structure looks like.
Old 01-08-2010, 12:06 PM
  #251  
namasgt
Three Wheelin'
 
namasgt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 1,675
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

The one posted above is collapsed Porsche mount.

Thanks



Quick Reply: Anchor Motor Mounts $18 each



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 12:25 PM.