OK, here I go....a 911 owner considering a 928 as daily driver
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ah..someone else read the Excellence article
20K will get you a very nice car. If you do any type of work on your 911 the 928 wont be any harder. There is a huge resource of help on the list here and via websites...
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20K will get you a very nice car. If you do any type of work on your 911 the 928 wont be any harder. There is a huge resource of help on the list here and via websites...
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Originally Posted by perrys4
Good to see another 911 owner waking up and smelling the coffee.
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Get a 5-Speed now so you don't have to look for one later.
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Jumping in on this thread as I'm in the same boat as Ed - current '75 911s owner who's looking to replace my daily driver (Audi A4) with a 928, preferably '90 or '91 GT.
In addition to the advice you've already offered, could I ask your opinions on 928 pricing among private party sellers? For a lot of the nicer '88 - '91 cars (not later GTS's), I'm seeing prices that are 2.5 - 3X the Kelly Blue Book "excellent" level for the mileage. I want a nice example and am willing to pay a significant premium over Blue Book...but 3X that amount seems excessive. So what I'm really asking is: How to I gauge what a used 928's value really is? Are there any guides more accurate than KBB? I'd even be curious to hear what any of you who own GT's or other 5-speed 928's paid for your cars (and at what mileage).
Thanks in advance!
-Robert
In addition to the advice you've already offered, could I ask your opinions on 928 pricing among private party sellers? For a lot of the nicer '88 - '91 cars (not later GTS's), I'm seeing prices that are 2.5 - 3X the Kelly Blue Book "excellent" level for the mileage. I want a nice example and am willing to pay a significant premium over Blue Book...but 3X that amount seems excessive. So what I'm really asking is: How to I gauge what a used 928's value really is? Are there any guides more accurate than KBB? I'd even be curious to hear what any of you who own GT's or other 5-speed 928's paid for your cars (and at what mileage).
Thanks in advance!
-Robert
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Well I knew there was a reason I save all my old magazines, and now I can prove it (again) to my wife. I'll look at the April article. I'll also look at the PPI list, which I'm sure will be very helpful.
And then don't you know it, Roger looks to be living in a house made of 928's a few miles from my house!! Talk about getting up to speed on this stuff fast...
And then don't you know it, Roger looks to be living in a house made of 928's a few miles from my house!! Talk about getting up to speed on this stuff fast...
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Good timing! One thing I've noticed in the last few days, is that the cars on FleaBay seem to not be too impressive. I'm sure this changes regularly. I've also looked on Auto Trader, and there are some people/dealers quite proud of their cars, a number that looked interesting at prices I would expect for a decent car, and then some lower cost cars. My guess is there are always going to be cars priced quite high (everything's for sale, right?), but the right one will come along with patience.
Originally Posted by rdurff
Jumping in on this thread as I'm in the same boat as Ed - current '75 911s owner who's looking to replace my daily driver (Audi A4) with a 928, preferably '90 or '91 GT.
In addition to the advice you've already offered, could I ask your opinions on 928 pricing among private party sellers? For a lot of the nicer '88 - '91 cars (not later GTS's), I'm seeing prices that are 2.5 - 3X the Kelly Blue Book "excellent" level for the mileage. I want a nice example and am willing to pay a significant premium over Blue Book...but 3X that amount seems excessive. So what I'm really asking is: How to I gauge what a used 928's value really is? Are there any guides more accurate than KBB? I'd even be curious to hear what any of you who own GT's or other 5-speed 928's paid for your cars (and at what mileage).
Thanks in advance!
-Robert
In addition to the advice you've already offered, could I ask your opinions on 928 pricing among private party sellers? For a lot of the nicer '88 - '91 cars (not later GTS's), I'm seeing prices that are 2.5 - 3X the Kelly Blue Book "excellent" level for the mileage. I want a nice example and am willing to pay a significant premium over Blue Book...but 3X that amount seems excessive. So what I'm really asking is: How to I gauge what a used 928's value really is? Are there any guides more accurate than KBB? I'd even be curious to hear what any of you who own GT's or other 5-speed 928's paid for your cars (and at what mileage).
Thanks in advance!
-Robert
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Robert, post it here, you're gonna get our very varying opinions. Some will pay 70k for a perfect GTS. Some will pay 30k for a so-so GTS. Some will pay 30k for an excellent S4. Some will pay 3k for a great S4. Blue book means nothing.
Find the car you want. Have a VERY knowledgeable 928 person check it out. And like my friend Shane says .... "go on down the road".
Find the car you want. Have a VERY knowledgeable 928 person check it out. And like my friend Shane says .... "go on down the road".
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LoL!!
If any of mine ever go for sale, they will do so at a premium. Just so you all know, I really don't intend to sell them, so if you see them at high prices listed on E-bay or Autotrader and such, it is because the wife pestered me into it.
If any of mine ever go for sale, they will do so at a premium. Just so you all know, I really don't intend to sell them, so if you see them at high prices listed on E-bay or Autotrader and such, it is because the wife pestered me into it.
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Ed which would you rather buy?
low-mile car, cracked windshield, dented door, otherwise perfect interior and exterior and mechanically including brand new tbelt and front main seal; no leaks; perfect compression; second owner or:
less low-mile car, no obvious broken parts, but some oil leaks; excellent service records; obviously much more worn; several owners ...
at the same price?
low-mile car, cracked windshield, dented door, otherwise perfect interior and exterior and mechanically including brand new tbelt and front main seal; no leaks; perfect compression; second owner or:
less low-mile car, no obvious broken parts, but some oil leaks; excellent service records; obviously much more worn; several owners ...
at the same price?
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Thanks for the pricing advice so far, guys. I recognize that there's no hard and fast rules on this. And clearly, I plan to buy the best example that I can afford. My hope was to find a 5 speed GT with under 80k miles for around $25k. Car would have to be well maintained and pass thorough PPI. My guess is that I may be looking at more like $30k for that. Would you generally agree?
GZILLA: I'm in the Seattle area too. Is there a shop you would recommend for a PPI? The shop I take my 911 to (John Walker's) specializes only in air-cooled Porsches...
Thanks again, guys!
GZILLA: I'm in the Seattle area too. Is there a shop you would recommend for a PPI? The shop I take my 911 to (John Walker's) specializes only in air-cooled Porsches...
Thanks again, guys!
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Originally Posted by rdurff
Jumping in on this thread as I'm in the same boat as Ed - current '75 911s owner who's looking to replace my daily driver (Audi A4) with a 928, preferably '90 or '91 GT.
In addition to the advice you've already offered, could I ask your opinions on 928 pricing among private party sellers? For a lot of the nicer '88 - '91 cars (not later GTS's), I'm seeing prices that are 2.5 - 3X the Kelly Blue Book "excellent" level for the mileage. I want a nice example and am willing to pay a significant premium over Blue Book...but 3X that amount seems excessive. So what I'm really asking is: How to I gauge what a used 928's value really is? Are there any guides more accurate than KBB? I'd even be curious to hear what any of you who own GT's or other 5-speed 928's paid for your cars (and at what mileage).
Thanks in advance!
-Robert
In addition to the advice you've already offered, could I ask your opinions on 928 pricing among private party sellers? For a lot of the nicer '88 - '91 cars (not later GTS's), I'm seeing prices that are 2.5 - 3X the Kelly Blue Book "excellent" level for the mileage. I want a nice example and am willing to pay a significant premium over Blue Book...but 3X that amount seems excessive. So what I'm really asking is: How to I gauge what a used 928's value really is? Are there any guides more accurate than KBB? I'd even be curious to hear what any of you who own GT's or other 5-speed 928's paid for your cars (and at what mileage).
Thanks in advance!
-Robert
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Good luck.
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I won't go for a worn car, as these things take too much to refurb. I don't know that I'd go for the first one either.
If I do go this route, I will probably indeed end up going for a car with a premium assigned to it, assuming that's what it will take to get a car that has truly been cared for. I'll also take my time.
If I do go this route, I will probably indeed end up going for a car with a premium assigned to it, assuming that's what it will take to get a car that has truly been cared for. I'll also take my time.
Originally Posted by heinrich
Ed which would you rather buy?
low-mile car, cracked windshield, dented door, otherwise perfect interior and exterior and mechanically including brand new tbelt and front main seal; no leaks; perfect compression; second owner or:
less low-mile car, no obvious broken parts, but some oil leaks; excellent service records; obviously much more worn; several owners ...
at the same price?
low-mile car, cracked windshield, dented door, otherwise perfect interior and exterior and mechanically including brand new tbelt and front main seal; no leaks; perfect compression; second owner or:
less low-mile car, no obvious broken parts, but some oil leaks; excellent service records; obviously much more worn; several owners ...
at the same price?
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RDurff, check with chris's german auto (chris powell) who serviced my 944 for many years or if you can get him, Leif Johnson at autowerks northwest (he's ridiculously busy) or monty at redmond european or in tacoma, Robert larsson Porsche. All are very experienced in Porsche 928 work.
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Originally Posted by Ed Hughes
I won't go for a worn car, as these things take too much to refurb. I don't know that I'd go for the first one either.
If I do go this route, I will probably indeed end up going for a car with a premium assigned to it, assuming that's what it will take to get a car that has truly been cared for. I'll also take my time.
If I do go this route, I will probably indeed end up going for a car with a premium assigned to it, assuming that's what it will take to get a car that has truly been cared for. I'll also take my time.