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Help....Car will not start. Think it is the alarm.. Not alarm probably starter

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Old 01-15-2006, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Funny, I participated in other alarm threads, but I had to go re-read them again to see how to byapss the alarm. Old age.

So, the alarm does not disable the starter but rather the EZK. It definitely does not disable the starter relay, as I could feel it working.

So, now we suspect the starter. There was no solenoid click. Is the solenoid serviceable or replaceable?

What else could it be?:
- Ignition switch - since starter relay clicks, don't think so.
- Wiring - we will clean the connections and verify power.
- Starter relay - we have ruled that out.
- Ground - guess this is a possibility. http://www.nichols.nu/tip624.htm
How about ingition switch. [url]http://www.nichols.nu/tip417.htm
Old 01-15-2006, 11:56 PM
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Bill, Steven,
I'm not sure if the solenoid is serviceable - I guess you can look @cleaning it up as you look at the power & ground connections too.

I think the ignition switch must be OK.

Check that the starter relay has 12v on the 30 connection. Check for continuity between the 87 connection and the solenoid control input. You can just jump the solenoid control input to the battery post and see if it cranks... Do the interior lights dim dramatically (more than normal) when you engage the starter? Could the battery be almost dead?

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Old 01-16-2006, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan
Could the battery be almost dead?

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Battery was installed new today.

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Old 01-16-2006, 04:46 AM
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No, the lights don't dim. There is no evidence that the starter was drawing any current. Will check the voltage at 30 and 87.
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Originally Posted by StevenB
How about ingition switch. [url]http://www.nichols.nu/tip417.htm
Well, maybe so, on second thought. I thought the starter relay wouldn't click if the switch was bad. The tip implies otherwise.
Old 01-22-2006, 10:04 PM
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Well, hopefuly this problem has been put to bed. With much help from Bill (again thank you for all the help with this problem over the past week ), the starter was replaced today. Interestly enough, the old starter was a rebuilt unit so this was not the first time the starter has been replaced. So far, no signs of non-starting. We also looked at my non-functioning drivers side window and found a broken roller on the motor arm. So now its off to find the part for that.

Since the weather looks good for tomorrow, I will take the shark to work and we will see if I get home.

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Steven
Good to hear the problem is solved! Bummer I missed the starter install :>(
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We decided to bet the old starter was the problem, even though it worked when Steve went to drive the car over this morning and continued to work in the driveway. The new starter is a lot peppier, turning the car over more quickly.

Just FYI, the solenoid does look like it should be easy to replace, bolted to the starter like most others. We debated whether to just to try to go get a solenoid from Autozone, as it was clear that the solenoid did not respond last week, but since the rebuilt starter was in-hand and had not been all that expensive, we just popped it in. Based on the faster turnover of the new starter, that was probably the right move.



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