Torque Curve Dyno comparison: turbo vs Centrifugal
11-30-2005, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE 650 WHP@ 1 BAR ( TURBO, SORRY SC GUY'S)
The S4 engine would be the perfect candidate and is a hell of a motor !
The S4 engine would be the perfect candidate and is a hell of a motor !
Perfect.
11-30-2005, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
I hope Tim doesn't mind me posting this:
Automatic S4 100% stock at 6psi no intercooler:
Automatic S4 100% stock at 6psi no intercooler:
Thanks hacker. Also - Talked to Todd Last night. NICE!
11-30-2005, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by marc@DEVEK
We have built quite a few 911Tubos, including TT and your 458 rwhp single turbo at 7 psi is quite a bit higher that anything I have ever seen! Seems way out of line .... why the big difference? Wath was the engines hp in a NA form? HAd to be over 300 rwhp or over 100 hp per liter NA.
11-30-2005, 01:59 PM
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Hello all,
Mark @devek i cannot comment on anyone else's experiences ,that is the numbers we produce and we have documented cars ,customers etc to back up all numbers and times etc.
mark ,i'm not setting anyone up just commenting on and impressed that the 928 comm was this Hp active was not aware and did not attempt to sell anyone
anything . Just a TECHNICAL DISCUSSION FOR WHAT IT WAS WORTH ON THE POTENTIAL ON THE 928.
as for the membership deal that is work in place .
I hope no offense was given non taken .
wayne
Mark @devek i cannot comment on anyone else's experiences ,that is the numbers we produce and we have documented cars ,customers etc to back up all numbers and times etc.
mark ,i'm not setting anyone up just commenting on and impressed that the 928 comm was this Hp active was not aware and did not attempt to sell anyone
anything . Just a TECHNICAL DISCUSSION FOR WHAT IT WAS WORTH ON THE POTENTIAL ON THE 928.
as for the membership deal that is work in place .
I hope no offense was given non taken .
wayne
11-30-2005, 02:00 PM
#52
It is controvesial because it also involves gearing and aerodynamics.
11-30-2005, 02:03 PM
#53
Originally Posted by m21sniper
That's why god invented block seal.
Brendan
11-30-2005, 02:07 PM
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hello ,
Mark@devek if the car is producing 585whp at 1 bar how much @.5?
do the math . If the car is making 151 mph in 1/4 do the math .
This is what we see with our conversions.
wayne
Mark@devek if the car is producing 585whp at 1 bar how much @.5?
do the math . If the car is making 151 mph in 1/4 do the math .
This is what we see with our conversions.
wayne
11-30-2005, 02:08 PM
#55
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
Ok james ,
Marks is in 5th and punches it and i down shift to 3 rd and put 7 cars on him ,
what;s the point ? that the v8 torque is good , of course and that is what v8 guy's like , does not make for a faster car just one that you like. We are straying here !
Just a thought to say that i believe that the S4 potential is untapped.
wayne
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Marks is in 5th and punches it and i down shift to 3 rd and put 7 cars on him ,
what;s the point ? that the v8 torque is good , of course and that is what v8 guy's like , does not make for a faster car just one that you like. We are straying here !
Just a thought to say that i believe that the S4 potential is untapped.
wayne
www.tpgproducts.com
A correctly done twin turbo kit & install should cost over $10k. We all would really like that! This single turbo set up that we are looking at here falls into the affordable category and addresses a performance improvement that can be enjoyed on a daily basis. It was purposefully designed for simplicity, not HP record setting. I was just providing an example of why we may like low end torque so much. If you downshift, you are engaging in racing. Many of us are subtle in this respect.
If you can sell me a reliable 600hp turbo kit for my 32v for under $5k, that would be swell. But it is a common perception is that such an animal would trap way too much heat under the 928 hood. Simplicity looks good in more ways than one.
I do agree with you though.
11-30-2005, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Old & New
Yeah, you just can't beat 1+ bar with that open deck design.
Perfect.
Perfect.
11-30-2005, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Nowak
Yes, those do matter. However, instead of your first week of intro to physics, you are dealing with information you learned in week four of physics 101.
cant remember if I passed that one... Jim - you didn't happen to catch the lengthy debate/argument on gearing did you? I was sorta kidding with that remark.
11-30-2005, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
Man overcame that 10 years ago my friend can you say 1000 bhp honda's
11-30-2005, 02:22 PM
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Yes, hence the 
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Jim - you didn't happen to catch the lengthy debate/argument on gearing did you? I was sorta kidding with that remark.
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Originally Posted by James-man
Jim - you didn't happen to catch the lengthy debate/argument on gearing did you? I was sorta kidding with that remark.