Torque Curve Dyno comparison: turbo vs Centrifugal
12-03-2005, 02:58 PM
#166
Originally Posted by Cameron
I kinda like the fact that I can smoke the tires all the way through first gear. If this is a problem known as poor launch traction, then it is a problem that I am happy to have.
12-03-2005, 03:01 PM
#168
Originally Posted by DR
>That is the problem all the twinscrew guys are running into. Poor launch traction.
Snipe ole buddy, you are just plain wrong! I can hook up my GT just fine... when I want to :-).
Snipe ole buddy, you are just plain wrong! I can hook up my GT just fine... when I want to :-).
12-03-2005, 03:05 PM
#169
Originally Posted by 928SS
nope. you should see my driveway - it's a 640' long stretch of various length tire/burnout marks that is starting to look like the staging area at LACR (local drag strip) hehehe. it's raining now, but I'll have to take a pic or two... it's truly absurd, but soooo fun/funny... come to think of it, burnout trails seem to be "growing" at nearly every intersection in my neightborhood, and I suppose if one were to follow them, they would lead right to my house too... oops, er - those damn teenagers 
12-03-2005, 05:55 PM
#170
Tsk, Tsk, Johny's off his meds again
Originally Posted by Johny-plum-crazy
Hey Brendan...I suggest you watch your comments on here. For a guy who has never actually finished anthing in this realm you pretend to be such an expert.
Once again you take to personal vitriol because you cannot specifically refute my posts.
This is not the first time you have been warned about taking off-topic assumptions and interjecting it into a proper argument of boosted 928s. Why?
Originally Posted by John-im-a-boostard
I often wonder if you have ever even taken a ride in any 928 with positive manifold pressure? For not having anything running I can't imagine how you know so much about this subject. I've been playing with this stuff on and off since 1990.
Originally Posted by John's confused
What you guys just don't seem to understand is this: The more you doubt what is possible, the more it drives me to build it...really So keep adding in your negative comments, it only drives me more.
Originally Posted by Johny
Brendan, I confronted you and Lag intellectually a long time ago...you guys continued to doubt and make crazy comments. Then Lag stooped down to his usual smart-*** levels. My build came back, doing exactly what it was estimated to do.
Originally Posted by Johny-can't-read
I'm just tired of the mud slinging regarding turbos, because 90% of what you publish on Rennlist is pure garbage. I don't know, maybe you guys just don't know that or don't understand the situation surrounding the options.
Originally Posted by Big-Wall-Street-Watchdog-John
Like I've said before, you simply can't rest on the lag issue and point ot the Vortech as better at boost delivery. You want to know how much potential resides with the turbo, just look at Porsche's racing history. 962, 935, 917, etc. Did any successful racing Porsche ever use a belt driven compressor?
Did you even read what I said, or did you just see "unrequited", "crap", and "john" in the same post and start typing?
Originally Posted by Tin-Foil-Johny
The build is coming and the guy building it knows the difference between Reynold's Number and Reynold's Wrap. Just because I don't have stock in Vortech doesn't make my beliefs/ work wrong or unsubstantiated.
12-04-2005, 02:47 AM
#171
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Originally Posted by m21sniper
Turbos are clearly superior, i don't care if it's a P-51, a 928, or a lawnmower.
Hmmm, turbo vs SC...
Where is the only place in motorsports that you see a supercharger more than turbo.. Drag racing- they put a 200lb penalty on turbo cars? why?, aren't they soooo laggy?
Reliability, turbo has it, sorry. The unreliable turbos are just poorly planned out.
Heat, where's all this heat being pumped into the motor? The heat is a biproduct of compressing air, very little mechanical heat is added to it. You'll have the added heat from any forced induction, that's what intercooling is for.
A supercharger is very responsive to crank speed, a turbo is very responsive to engine load. That said in real world situations, a turbo would preform better, also, under dyno conditions normally a SC will preform better(it only needs crank speed to pull boost). Alot of dynos cannot fully or properly load a car to show full potential of a load dependent system(turbo).
It's been said, and it's true, tuning is the most important part of building a successful setup and having it last.
Attention to detail is a must!
I've witnessed a 944 turbo that put 380hp to the ground through stock 2" intercooler lines on a stock longblock. While everyone keeps saying that the stock IC lines have to go, too small, too many bends, never make any power with them, etc. It was done with a turbo, tuning and a set of injectors. Funny thing was, they never pushed it past 4K, it was developing a misfire up in the revs(ended up being a bad plug wire). Still layed down the numbers!
It's hard to explain everything, there's alot to turbo and suprecharger systems. Turbo is best in my book.
12-04-2005, 10:32 AM
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Brendan, I'm not going to waste time responding to your once again immature comments. I will say your response was somewhat Lag-like though. Bring what you have to the surface next year, or better yet show it now on here.
This was a post about CS vs Turbo torque curves. Andy's comments are spot on, so read up.
This was a post about CS vs Turbo torque curves. Andy's comments are spot on, so read up.
12-05-2005, 09:40 AM
#174
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m21sniper,
Just because you can do something, doesn't mean that you must. I would rather have an ability, and learn how to best harness that ability, than to not have an ability at all.
Just because you can do something, doesn't mean that you must. I would rather have an ability, and learn how to best harness that ability, than to not have an ability at all.
