Helluva a documentation job, Ed - well done! Knowin' DR's generousity, he musta comp'd ya the lights for that comprehensive installation guide.

Is the H5 upgrade installation similar?

 

Has anyone ever put projectors in the fog light area?

I'm thinking of trying to fit some Bosch mini H3 projectors with an xenon kit into that space, they measure 1.5" diameter x 3.75" length, but I'm wondering how difficult it would be to make a mount that fills the space and could protect the projector lens from the rock showers inherent in highway driving.

 

I don't see how it could be significantly different; should be a bit easier if anything.

I had a few requirements I wanted to satisfy that made my installation a little more time consuming (like making sure to arrange things such that bulbs would be replacable without having to get back inside the wheel well, mounting the ballasts really robustly, etc.) I believe that finding the right location and technique for mounting the ballasts is important; I couldn't stand the thought of the relatively heavy ballasts banging around, just hanging on a strap.

It really is worth the effort and money. If you're going to have nice big pop-up 8" H4s or H5s frog eye lights, you might as well cast out light like a lighthouse. Just do it responsibly and make sure you align them well so you don't annoy the other drivers.

 

Ed I used your writeup as a guide when I did my H5's and there were only a could of very minor differences. I think the main one was that I didn'r have the big band clamp - so I used zip ties instead. They seem to be working just fine. BTW, that was one hecl of a write up. Super detailed. Thanks.

 

>Has anyone ever put projectors in the fog light area?
>I'm thinking of trying to fit some Bosch mini H3 projectors with an xenon kit into that space,
>they measure 1.5" diameter x 3.75" length, but I'm wondering how difficult it would be to make a >mount that fills the space and could protect the projector lens from the rock showers inherent in >highway driving.

Our H3 HID Kits fit the Fog and Driving Lights of all 928s.

The best setup for an 87-up (and earlier Euros with driving lights) is the H5 HID headlight kits AND the H3 HID Driving Light kit. This gives you great low beam lighting and when you hit the High beams the HID Low beam stays AND the HID Driving lights come on as high beans and shine for approx 2-3 miles (no kidding)

 

Randy,
>Helluva a documentation job, Ed - well done!

Yes it is and I can't thank him enough.

> Knowin' DR's generousity, he musta comp'd ya the lights for that comprehensive installation guide.

No, Ed bought the lights normaly and then surprised me with the manual later, that is the kind of great guy Ed is.. Of course his is going to get a "break" on a Supercharger Kit as a thank you and for possibly doing the Install Guide for the SC kits :-)

Thanks again Ed!

>Is the H5 upgrade installation similar?

Yes, but slightly easier as the harness is not as "bulky".

 

Yup, I have every intention of doing just that.

And ... you're welcome!

 

D.R. just to set my mind straight - Is the H4 Bi-xenon a dual-filament bulb? Or does it wiggle the bulb for high-beams?

 

>D.R. just to set my mind straight - Is the H4 Bi-xenon a dual-filament bulb?

No

> Or does it wiggle the bulb for high-beams?

No, the "wiggle" type are know to be problematic.

The one we use has a "shield" that moves back and forth to manipulate the high low.

I will say that the Bi-Xenon "High Beam" is not optimal, the best setup by far is the H4 or H5 Headlight Kit for low beams(we mod them to stay on when you select high beams) and then the H3 Driving light Kit for High Beams. The combination of those 2 is amazing!

 

Forgive me for butting in, but I happen to have a good photo that helps visualize DR's answer.

I'm guessing that the cylindrical part of the assembly on the left side (with the sliver-colored cap) is a solenoid. The gray shield behind the bulb is moved to change the beam pattern.

As DR says, this works somewhat, but isn't great.

I'll probably do the H3 driving light kit next, but I'm more interested in doing a couple of other things first (SC kit and the X-pipes).

 

H4 low beam HID + H3 driving light HID....2-3 miles of light....very tempting.... Darn, it will have to wait for a suitable grace period after the $1Ks I've been putting into my stealth multimedia system and all the "Do you really need all that?" questions subside.

 

Funny, I wonder how many of us do the "stealth" stuff to keep our projects unnoticed from the source of the "Do you really need all that?" questions, rather than the burglars.

(Notice how two of my upcoming upgrades -- SC and X-pipe -- might be handled in such a fashion? I'm hoping for nothing more than "Ed, the shark sounds a little different and seems a lot peppier. Have you done something to it? )

... Back on-topic (somewhat) ... here's another photo showing a regular H4 bulb (left, it's a Sylvania Silverstar) and the 928 SP HID bulb (right).

 

Just for clarification, we also have the "normal" H4 HIDs that do not have the reflector shift and they are $150 cheaper ($299 vs $449). If you have Driving Lights in your 928 and plan on getting the HIDs for the Driving Lights I would highly recommend our Standard H4 HID.

Also I do not feel replacing your H5 headlights with H4 headlights just to be able to use the H4 B-Xenons in worth it. For those with H5s you should get the H5 Kit for the headlights and the H3 Kit for your driving lights.

 

This would be going in on an '85 EuroS. I would like to try and get the focused beam look of projectors in the driving light area but would like to make it as plug n' play as possible. I think this would call for removing the entire driving light assembly and fabricating the mounts for custom projectors but I'm wondering what sort of stuff I need. I'm looking at a set of ballasts from a 2004 TL that I would be using with a pair of projectors from a 2005 Maxima.


Hey DR,

Who makes the bulbs included in the 928 Specialist kits?
What color temperature rating are the bulbs in Mark Robinsons 928 (which I believe he said are the 928SP kit bulbs)?
I'm looking to stick with Philips 4100K's, anything else wouldn't be practical.
(P.S. Anyone know how to tell whether a ballast has an ignitor built in?)

 

>This would be going in on an '85 EuroS.

I understand, I have HIDs in my 85 Euro in The Headlights, Driving lights AND Fog lights, it is AMAZING!!

See this thread for more details:

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...hlight=HID+210


> I would like to try and get the focused beam look of projectors in the driving >light area but would like to make it as plug n' play as possible.

You really should save yourself a lot of fabrication, expense and mods to your Euro and just put some HIDs in your Driving lights, The pattern they put out is perfect, it is a rectangular almost square beam that shines for miles perfectly on the road. I honestly think it is better than any projector setup I have seen.

I will make you a deal, buy one of our H3 Kits, install it and if you are not completely happy with the results send them back.


>What color temperature rating are the bulbs in Mark Robinsons 928 (which I >believe he said are the 928SP kit bulbs)?

They are 6k, they look very white almost just like the 4k OEM setups. They only look a little blueish on startup (and in photographs)

>(P.S. Anyone know how to tell whether a ballast has an ignitor built in?)

I prefer separate Ballast Ignitor as you don't have the added expense of replacing both it just one component ever goes bad.