pasa

Hi everyone
I have just spotted a 1986 928 in Hong Kong white with a black interior full service history and only 91000Km(53000miles). I have not gone to see the car yet but from the pictures it looks excellent and I am told that this car has been very well looked after by its only owner. I have a few questions. I don't know much about the older 928 but I did notice that this car has the old style spider intake I thought the 1986 models were V32 with the intake that look more like horizontal tubes? Also this car is an automatic do all 928 automatics suffer from the flex plate issue or is it just the later models? I am consider purchasing it ,is there anything else I should have checked out not counting the obvious(timing belt water pump etc.).Would this car have the 288HP engine or the 300Hp engine?. I have always loved the look of the older 928's and would love to get this one.

Thanks
Dan 1990 928Gt

P.S. asking price 79000.00HKD ( 10000.00USD)

Imo000

Only the '85-'86 North American Spec (Canada/USA) 928s were 32 Vs. All the Rest Of the World (ROW) 928s were 16Vs until '87. The nice part is that the '85 ROW 16V were stronger (305HP) than the 32V counterparts (288HP). I think the flex plate issue is only a problem with the S4 and up models, but I could be wrong.

I think Porsche was using the early 32V engines as a tester. There are alot of changes made once the S4s came out. The early 32Vs are alot different and this is not just the intake manifold but the heads too.

pasa

Thanks Imo000

why all the extra HP out of the 16V? is there any electrical issues I should look for?

Dan 1990 928Gt

FlyingDog

An 85 ROW car would be a 16V LH-jet 928 S2 aka Euro S. It's 310hp/295ftlbs from the factory. Unlike previous 16V cars, the S2 cars are interference motors so the timing belt is very important. 1985 was the year they changed interiors, tensioner setups, and manual transmissions. Euro/ROW cars got the 4-speed auto in 1984. I don't know whether TBF failure increase is directly related to the tranny, or whether there were other changes in the torque tube and couplers.

FlyingDog

No cats 10.4:1 compression, wilder cams, big throttlebody/plenum/runners, big valves...

The 32V cars have more low end. The 16V Euro S cars have more high end.

pasa

Thanks Mat

Does that mean that I have to worry about the TBF issue on this car? What about the price is it fair?

Dan 1990 928Gt

BrianG

By the time you get that far back in age, and that far away from the good ol' USofA, condition amd market demand are the operative issues. Since it's not a US spec car you can't use that as a baseline, and it's certainly not the US market.

My guess is that you are going to have to do some significant local market research, and then get out the grinder!

Have fun....... it'll be a nice car if it's as advertized!!

pasa

unfortunately there is no market research available in Hong Kong there were so few 928's sold here that it's rare to see them for sale and prices vary widely. I bought my 1990 Gt for 60000HKD (about 7700USD with 80000KM) but it needed a little tlc. Its hard to get a reference price here.

Dan 1990 928GT

PS here are some pics

Airflite40

The car looks very nice, since it's an 86, it should have S4 brakes and suspension. This is as good as OB's are gonna get. If you really like the OB style then you should go for it. Like you said, there are not too many 928's around.

BrianG

Well, THAT helps!!

Deduct 50% due to the steering having been erroneously installed on the wrong side of the car!!

Rich9928p

The TBF issue is fairly easy to check. Just drop the exhaust a bit and pull the flywheel inspection plate. If there is little or no "flex" in the flex plate odds are pretty good that you have nothing to worry about.

FlyingDog

That is one of the better looking Euros I've seen. It even has the (factory) wheels that I want!

I'd say with your limited supply, that car could easily be worth $10k. If you search for the 84 Euro S recently sold on Pelican and bought by a member here, BeerFish, you'll have a good comparison. His was $8500. Unless there is anything hiden in your pics, I'd say your body is better, and interior is a little better. His is a 5-speed which would be worth more, but yours is an 86 which would be worth a good bit more due to the S4 suspension and brakes.

Does the headlight aiming system still work?

pasa

Thanks for the info Guy's

I spoke with the sellers friend (looks like his buddy is selling it for the owner)today and eveything works, recently serviced including a torque tube replacement, thats why I worry about the TBF.

Dan 1990 928GT

khalloudy

Dan,

I would not really worry that much... just take it to the dealer for a PPI, let them check the oil (good indicator if there is an issue with TBF). Also let them check and adjust the TT and Flex plate pressure. The 928 WSM has the procedure. Also Rich Andrade and Dan Warner put togeather a little writeup. Make sure the car has been well kept up... i know this from the little Middle East market where a number of 928s went... only to be forgotten like relics in garages for decades.. now those are a mess... what a shame.

rixter

it's not on the wrong side, it's on the Right side!