Opinions: What Does Forced Induction Do To The Value Of A 928?
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Opinions: What Does Forced Induction Do To The Value Of A 928?
Maybe a stupid question, but...
If you were thinking of perhaps eventually selling your shark, do you think the general market of prospective buyers would view an added SC or turbo as enhancing the value of the car, or would they be suspicious that the car had been "ridden hard and put away wet?" Or maybe the install had been done by a less-than-experienced wrench...
What think ye?
(I'm not necessarily talking about relative merits between the various systems, just any type of forced induction system - which is a pretty significant mod to a 928. Basically, the question is, "Do prospective buyers generally prefer an unmolested stock model, or a modded car?)
If you were thinking of perhaps eventually selling your shark, do you think the general market of prospective buyers would view an added SC or turbo as enhancing the value of the car, or would they be suspicious that the car had been "ridden hard and put away wet?" Or maybe the install had been done by a less-than-experienced wrench...
What think ye?
(I'm not necessarily talking about relative merits between the various systems, just any type of forced induction system - which is a pretty significant mod to a 928. Basically, the question is, "Do prospective buyers generally prefer an unmolested stock model, or a modded car?)
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Bigs,
My guess depends on the buyer. The car may be attractive to a buyer looking to boost a 928 themselves, but for someone looking for an original, the car will be less attractive. Most of my prior cars with mods were sold for no more than a stock car would be worth-gave away the mod $$$'s.
I did mine and really don't care about the resale value. My car is just a toy bought for personal enjoyment. I get a great smile everytime I take it out. My kids beg to go for a ride in "red car". My wife giggles when we go for a ride. Hard to put a price on that.
Besides, if you are worried about resale, it already sucks. What is just a little more $$$.
Jim R.
My guess depends on the buyer. The car may be attractive to a buyer looking to boost a 928 themselves, but for someone looking for an original, the car will be less attractive. Most of my prior cars with mods were sold for no more than a stock car would be worth-gave away the mod $$$'s.
I did mine and really don't care about the resale value. My car is just a toy bought for personal enjoyment. I get a great smile everytime I take it out. My kids beg to go for a ride in "red car". My wife giggles when we go for a ride. Hard to put a price on that.
Besides, if you are worried about resale, it already sucks. What is just a little more $$$.
Jim R.
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Originally Posted by heinrich
... if it's done nicely of course.
But this forum is a fairly small population of potential buyers.
Do you think that the market in general would feel the same way?
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I think the majority want an unmolested car, and I think the majority will think a modded car has been driven hard.
I think if you look at most of the people who modify there 928's and most likely Porsches in general, they are being careful and doing it right, A before B etc. Regardless I think you have to have the right kind of person looking to het a premium from a SC'd car, IMO.
I think if you look at most of the people who modify there 928's and most likely Porsches in general, they are being careful and doing it right, A before B etc. Regardless I think you have to have the right kind of person looking to het a premium from a SC'd car, IMO.
Originally Posted by bigs
Maybe a stupid question, but...
If you were thinking of perhaps eventually selling your shark, do you think the general market of prospective buyers would view an added SC or turbo as enhancing the value of the car, or would they be suspicious that the car had been "ridden hard and put away wet?" Or maybe the install had been done by a less-than-experienced wrench...
What think ye?
(I'm not necessarily talking about relative merits between the various systems, just any type of forced induction system - which is a pretty significant mod to a 928. Basically, the question is, "Do prospective buyers generally prefer an unmolested stock model, or a modded car?)
If you were thinking of perhaps eventually selling your shark, do you think the general market of prospective buyers would view an added SC or turbo as enhancing the value of the car, or would they be suspicious that the car had been "ridden hard and put away wet?" Or maybe the install had been done by a less-than-experienced wrench...
What think ye?
(I'm not necessarily talking about relative merits between the various systems, just any type of forced induction system - which is a pretty significant mod to a 928. Basically, the question is, "Do prospective buyers generally prefer an unmolested stock model, or a modded car?)
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Originally Posted by bigs
I suspect that's correct for members of this forum - especially if they knew that the boys at Motorsport SLC would be doing the install...
But this forum is a fairly small population of potential buyers.
Do you think that the market in general would feel the same way?
But this forum is a fairly small population of potential buyers.
Do you think that the market in general would feel the same way?
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Bingo, SC brother
Originally Posted by Jim R.
Bigs,
My guess depends on the buyer. The car may be attractive to a buyer looking to boost a 928 themselves, but for someone looking for an original, the car will be less attractive. Most of my prior cars with mods were sold for no more than a stock car would be worth-gave away the mod $$$'s.
I did mine and really don't care about the resale value. My car is just a toy bought for personal enjoyment. I get a great smile everytime I take it out. My kids beg to go for a ride in "red car". My wife giggles when we go for a ride. Hard to put a price on that.
Besides, if you are worried about resale, it already sucks. What is just a little more $$$.
Jim R.
My guess depends on the buyer. The car may be attractive to a buyer looking to boost a 928 themselves, but for someone looking for an original, the car will be less attractive. Most of my prior cars with mods were sold for no more than a stock car would be worth-gave away the mod $$$'s.
I did mine and really don't care about the resale value. My car is just a toy bought for personal enjoyment. I get a great smile everytime I take it out. My kids beg to go for a ride in "red car". My wife giggles when we go for a ride. Hard to put a price on that.
Besides, if you are worried about resale, it already sucks. What is just a little more $$$.
Jim R.
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I think that any type of charging will generally lead to a reduced pool of prospective buyers, but raise the value of the car within that group.
In nearly all other matters of collecting, "original" is the keyword for highest value. Of course, some will pay highly for modded/custom cars, but the top dollars generally go to unmolested/restored examples.
One question to answer is, "why do people buy 928s?" I think most buy for the mystique and pedigree of Porsche engineering, and charging disrupts that integrity (which is not to say that charging is necessarily bad, just that it is non-Porsche).
In nearly all other matters of collecting, "original" is the keyword for highest value. Of course, some will pay highly for modded/custom cars, but the top dollars generally go to unmolested/restored examples.
One question to answer is, "why do people buy 928s?" I think most buy for the mystique and pedigree of Porsche engineering, and charging disrupts that integrity (which is not to say that charging is necessarily bad, just that it is non-Porsche).
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Nice avatar Chaadster and your opinion, imo, is spot on.
Originally Posted by chaadster
I think that any type of charging will generally lead to a reduced pool of prospective buyers, but raise the value of the car within that group.
In nearly all other matters of collecting, "original" is the keyword for highest value. Of course, some will pay highly for modded/custom cars, but the top dollars generally go to unmolested/restored examples.
One question to answer is, "why do people buy 928s?" I think most buy for the mystique and pedigree of Porsche engineering, and charging disrupts that integrity (which is not to say that charging is necessarily bad, just that it is non-Porsche).
In nearly all other matters of collecting, "original" is the keyword for highest value. Of course, some will pay highly for modded/custom cars, but the top dollars generally go to unmolested/restored examples.
One question to answer is, "why do people buy 928s?" I think most buy for the mystique and pedigree of Porsche engineering, and charging disrupts that integrity (which is not to say that charging is necessarily bad, just that it is non-Porsche).
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Weissach gets to the point I was going to make: what was the value of the car before the SC?
And I, for one, would be less interested. Too many unknowns. What was really done? What is the quality and longevity? Who will work on the car? What about when the SC needs service?
Planning for "the right buyer" is a gamble.
I think you might get more money be removing the SC, returning the car to stock, saying nothing about it and selling the system separately.
And the car was supercharged and not beaten? Who's going to believe that?
And I, for one, would be less interested. Too many unknowns. What was really done? What is the quality and longevity? Who will work on the car? What about when the SC needs service?
Planning for "the right buyer" is a gamble.
I think you might get more money be removing the SC, returning the car to stock, saying nothing about it and selling the system separately.
And the car was supercharged and not beaten? Who's going to believe that?
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****! My car is already 80% deprteciated. Do I really care if the value of the car itself (w/o mods) goes down any more? Not really. If I put a supercharger on it, I can have fun with it, and then if I get tired, I can either try and sell the car complete w/ the supercharger, or I can de-install it and sell the two separately - or give the buyer the option. THat's waht I did on my 82 with the NOS setup. I had $500 invested the NOS setup and offered to de-install it for $500 off the price of the car. He took the whole package. And I think I got a fair price for my car. The key is how much is your fun worth to you?
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Bigs it's pretty much a question of numbers. In other Porsche societies (911 and such) as well as American cars, if you make numbers and especially if you show up the competition, your car will be sought-after. For instance, look for supercharged 911's. You'll see that the buyer is willing to pay many times the stock value. On PCA events/drives, it's the highly-modded cars that get all the attention and sell for big dollars. IMHO there is no way a well-made mod that doubles your stock horsepower could be a bad thing when you decide to resell. How the car was driven is immaterial because if the numbers are there, compression is good and dyno results are shown, you'll sell. This is why all those years, used Devek stroker cars sold quickly and for high dollars. In that case the cost outweighed the sale price gains, but with a 6k supercharger you can't lose.
Originally Posted by bigs
I suspect that's correct for members of this forum - especially if they knew that the boys at Motorsport SLC would be doing the install...
But this forum is a fairly small population of potential buyers.
Do you think that the market in general would feel the same way?
But this forum is a fairly small population of potential buyers.
Do you think that the market in general would feel the same way?