SC kit on Ebay
09-20-2005, 12:03 AM
#1
Race Car
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SC kit on Ebay
This could be the bargain of the century. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...01364824QQrdZ1
Too bad I just got a new Jeep Liberty CRD last week, brhhhh.
Too bad I just got a new Jeep Liberty CRD last week, brhhhh.
09-20-2005, 12:43 AM
#3
Drifting
We are selling it for our customer and he specified that we put it on E-bay.
It ran great (after I worked out the bugs inherent to a F.A.S.T. kit) but the customer has the same disease I have, there's no such thing as enough or too much horsepower. He's now running 9# and dyno'd at 430 rear with no other mods. He's getting an X-pipe this week that should put him well over 450rwhp. Springtime will bring two more pounds boost to break 500. We also upgraded to a Vortech V1-T as we topped out the V2-S at this altitude.
If someone is able to be content with 5-7#'s of boost, it's a cheap way to add 100-140 rwhp. The car was a lot of fun at that horsepower level but he got beat by a 996 Twin Turbo. He has since found the same TT and showed him what the *** of a 928 looks like.
Since I am the one that made it work reliably, I will offer free tech assist to whoever buys it.
It ran great (after I worked out the bugs inherent to a F.A.S.T. kit) but the customer has the same disease I have, there's no such thing as enough or too much horsepower. He's now running 9# and dyno'd at 430 rear with no other mods. He's getting an X-pipe this week that should put him well over 450rwhp. Springtime will bring two more pounds boost to break 500. We also upgraded to a Vortech V1-T as we topped out the V2-S at this altitude.
If someone is able to be content with 5-7#'s of boost, it's a cheap way to add 100-140 rwhp. The car was a lot of fun at that horsepower level but he got beat by a 996 Twin Turbo. He has since found the same TT and showed him what the *** of a 928 looks like.
Since I am the one that made it work reliably, I will offer free tech assist to whoever buys it.
09-20-2005, 01:24 AM
#5
Drifting
GT's seem to respond really well to supercharging.
As far as installation, depending on your mechanical ability (or your mechanic's) it shouldn't take more than a weekend.
As far as installation, depending on your mechanical ability (or your mechanic's) it shouldn't take more than a weekend.
09-20-2005, 02:30 AM
#6
Three Wheelin'
Originally Posted by Ketchmi
We are selling it for our customer and he specified that we put it on E-bay.
It ran great (after I worked out the bugs inherent to a F.A.S.T. kit) but the customer has the same disease I have, there's no such thing as enough or too much horsepower. He's now running 9# and dyno'd at 430 rear with no other mods. He's getting an X-pipe this week that should put him well over 450rwhp. Springtime will bring two more pounds boost to break 500. We also upgraded to a Vortech V1-T as we topped out the V2-S at this altitude.
If someone is able to be content with 5-7#'s of boost, it's a cheap way to add 100-140 rwhp. The car was a lot of fun at that horsepower level but he got beat by a 996 Twin Turbo. He has since found the same TT and showed him what the *** of a 928 looks like.
Since I am the one that made it work reliably, I will offer free tech assist to whoever buys it.
It ran great (after I worked out the bugs inherent to a F.A.S.T. kit) but the customer has the same disease I have, there's no such thing as enough or too much horsepower. He's now running 9# and dyno'd at 430 rear with no other mods. He's getting an X-pipe this week that should put him well over 450rwhp. Springtime will bring two more pounds boost to break 500. We also upgraded to a Vortech V1-T as we topped out the V2-S at this altitude.
If someone is able to be content with 5-7#'s of boost, it's a cheap way to add 100-140 rwhp. The car was a lot of fun at that horsepower level but he got beat by a 996 Twin Turbo. He has since found the same TT and showed him what the *** of a 928 looks like.
Since I am the one that made it work reliably, I will offer free tech assist to whoever buys it.
Does the SC belt go around the power steering pulley?
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09-20-2005, 04:34 PM
#8
Race Car
Wish I had a couple thou in loose change...would be interesting trying to fit that to my car... I read that it requires additional modification. And I would probably need a new pully, with the Euro C/R I don't know that monkeying with anything above 4 lbs or so is real advisable....
09-20-2005, 08:35 PM
#11
Drifting
For installation on an 86' you will need an oil filter adapter and line for oil supply, a different rising rate regulator and a dipstick tube modified for an oil return. Oh yeah, it needs an air intake system. It comes with the intake adapter but the hose and K&N cone filter that I used are still on the car.
With the 85-86' engines you will have to relocate the throttle linkage also and possibly create a new throttle rod or convert it to a cable.
This supercharger "kit" has the hard to find items like a bracket, pulleys and the supercharger. You or your mechanic will probably have to create some things to make it work properly. It is not a complete bolt up kit. It will need some fine tuning to make it work properly with almost all different years. You will need to set the fans up to run the way you want them to work. You will need to play with fuel pressures and possibly upgrade to 30# injectors depending on what you have already done to the car as well.
With the 85-86' engines you will have to relocate the throttle linkage also and possibly create a new throttle rod or convert it to a cable.
This supercharger "kit" has the hard to find items like a bracket, pulleys and the supercharger. You or your mechanic will probably have to create some things to make it work properly. It is not a complete bolt up kit. It will need some fine tuning to make it work properly with almost all different years. You will need to set the fans up to run the way you want them to work. You will need to play with fuel pressures and possibly upgrade to 30# injectors depending on what you have already done to the car as well.
09-20-2005, 08:37 PM
#12
Drifting
I never ran it without a rising rate fuel pressure regulator or 30# injectors. I will always err on the safe side and run rich. I would rather run for years at 380rwhp than for days at 410rwhp.
09-20-2005, 11:33 PM
#13
Captain Obvious
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Dave,
The '85 - '86 32V engines come stock with 24lb injector. My custom setup paxton SC is esentially the same as this one and the stock injectors with an 8:1 ration FMU works extremly well. According to the A/F gague, at full boost, it's running at the border of rich and stoch. This is where I find it the safest.
I remeber these kits costing around $5000 new. At half the price, this is a real bargain. The SC head unit alone is worth at least $1000 used. Up to 140 HP for around $3000 is DIRT cheap by any standards. My system is the same (non intercooled, 6~7psi) and it's a blast to drive. A full custom, front to back, exhaust will cost the same and only give you MAYBE 30HP. I'm extremly suprised that noone jumped on this yet.
The '85 - '86 32V engines come stock with 24lb injector. My custom setup paxton SC is esentially the same as this one and the stock injectors with an 8:1 ration FMU works extremly well. According to the A/F gague, at full boost, it's running at the border of rich and stoch. This is where I find it the safest.
I remeber these kits costing around $5000 new. At half the price, this is a real bargain. The SC head unit alone is worth at least $1000 used. Up to 140 HP for around $3000 is DIRT cheap by any standards. My system is the same (non intercooled, 6~7psi) and it's a blast to drive. A full custom, front to back, exhaust will cost the same and only give you MAYBE 30HP. I'm extremly suprised that noone jumped on this yet.
09-20-2005, 11:52 PM
#14
Drifting
I ran this one without an FMU, just 30# injectors and a rising rate FPR. It ran at about 11.5 to one with this setup which is OK for this level of boost.
What people don't realize is that the crank pulley alone is worth $700, the bracket is not cheap either. The POLISHED V2 S is easily worth $1400 with only 3000 miles on it. When you add up the parts, it comes to well over $4000 in replacement price alone. We don't plan on building anything with less than 8 or 9psi so it does nothing for us. We do not get the proceeds, it is for sale and owned by the customer. Whatever it sells for, it sells for. We are just doing him a favor.
What people don't realize is that the crank pulley alone is worth $700, the bracket is not cheap either. The POLISHED V2 S is easily worth $1400 with only 3000 miles on it. When you add up the parts, it comes to well over $4000 in replacement price alone. We don't plan on building anything with less than 8 or 9psi so it does nothing for us. We do not get the proceeds, it is for sale and owned by the customer. Whatever it sells for, it sells for. We are just doing him a favor.
09-21-2005, 12:48 AM
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This would really bring an early 928 to life due to their lower compression ratios. It would add
across the board torque and horsepower increases, not just at the top end, and is vastly easier,
less costly and more aesthetically pleasing that the complexities of increasing compression with Euro pistons, Euro intake and throttle body etc, etc. Just open up the exhaust a little and return your 928 to true luxury performance cruising. Boosting an early 928 motor is the fastest, easiest and most successful upgrade possible.
Sure, the older models may not justify the cost in terms of return, but no performance modifications ever do. It will vastly improve the personality and pleasure of your 928. And it makes your Porsche a cut above the rest. If a hundred horsepower and doubling the under the hood curb appeal for under $4K installed is out of your budget (and for many it is), overall upgrading your 928 is out of your budget and you might have the wrong car if you also are into performance.
This also is a FAR better way to go than trying to piece together your own supercharger system via parts. As for installation costs, that depends upon your ability to find the right mechanic/shop. It is not a complicated matter - unless they try to make it one. With an early 928 (4.5) except a Euro, you could go with a maximum boost pulley - provided your injectors and fuel pump(s) capacity is sufficient.
Get it put on and forget it. Go really fast. Look great. Be above the pack.
While my boosted engine project is far more exotic and eccentric than this, I have always beleved that for any 928 owner wanting more performance they best course is one of the supercharger kits. While pricy, they do not require tearing a motor down, are easy installations and do make horsepower - and look like the make horsepower. Besides, then you get to boast that you have a Supercharged Porsche. To most, they just heard you tell of owning a rocket sled.
Suddenly, your 928 has more acceleration than any of the new Mustangs and Cameros, vastly outshines any Boxter or Nissan Z...
If you bought a 928, this means your personality wants this. Just go for it. Do it and get it over with. You'll love it. I have never, not once, read a complaint of anyone who put a supercharger or turbocharger of any style, model or kit that did not fully fall in love once again with their 928.
Unless you are very mechanically inclined, a kit is the way to go.
Make sure you have enough fuel (injectors and fuel pump capacity pressure) AND REMEMBER THAT THE RPM limiter on a 928 is by fuel starvation (deadly to a boosted motor). For higher compression later model 928s, add water injection to avoid denotation (my advise for a cheap cure) and gain another dozen or so horsepower as well.
Mark
DFWX
across the board torque and horsepower increases, not just at the top end, and is vastly easier,
less costly and more aesthetically pleasing that the complexities of increasing compression with Euro pistons, Euro intake and throttle body etc, etc. Just open up the exhaust a little and return your 928 to true luxury performance cruising. Boosting an early 928 motor is the fastest, easiest and most successful upgrade possible.
Sure, the older models may not justify the cost in terms of return, but no performance modifications ever do. It will vastly improve the personality and pleasure of your 928. And it makes your Porsche a cut above the rest. If a hundred horsepower and doubling the under the hood curb appeal for under $4K installed is out of your budget (and for many it is), overall upgrading your 928 is out of your budget and you might have the wrong car if you also are into performance.
This also is a FAR better way to go than trying to piece together your own supercharger system via parts. As for installation costs, that depends upon your ability to find the right mechanic/shop. It is not a complicated matter - unless they try to make it one. With an early 928 (4.5) except a Euro, you could go with a maximum boost pulley - provided your injectors and fuel pump(s) capacity is sufficient.
Get it put on and forget it. Go really fast. Look great. Be above the pack.
While my boosted engine project is far more exotic and eccentric than this, I have always beleved that for any 928 owner wanting more performance they best course is one of the supercharger kits. While pricy, they do not require tearing a motor down, are easy installations and do make horsepower - and look like the make horsepower. Besides, then you get to boast that you have a Supercharged Porsche. To most, they just heard you tell of owning a rocket sled.
Suddenly, your 928 has more acceleration than any of the new Mustangs and Cameros, vastly outshines any Boxter or Nissan Z...
If you bought a 928, this means your personality wants this. Just go for it. Do it and get it over with. You'll love it. I have never, not once, read a complaint of anyone who put a supercharger or turbocharger of any style, model or kit that did not fully fall in love once again with their 928.
Unless you are very mechanically inclined, a kit is the way to go.
Make sure you have enough fuel (injectors and fuel pump capacity pressure) AND REMEMBER THAT THE RPM limiter on a 928 is by fuel starvation (deadly to a boosted motor). For higher compression later model 928s, add water injection to avoid denotation (my advise for a cheap cure) and gain another dozen or so horsepower as well.
Mark
DFWX