No problem bro.

And based on the comments from your customers, i'd say you're pretty "Lag proofed" now.

This thread was actually very useful to your cause because it elicted a lot of fantastic customer feed back.

You should be cut and pasting it to your site as we speak...

I'd LOVE to get a SC kit for my 928, but it's just way out of my price range, so i'm going with nitrous. If my financial situation ever takes a change for the better, expect a call from me.

 

This is Too Easy...

Let's examine this 'posting false information' stuff and see what really happened here.

By the way, you never did answer this simple question:
All you did was huff, and puff, and threatened to blub-blub-blub-blub-blub-blowwww my house down! As usual, it is all a bunch of hot-air.

Why is that so? Simple, NO false information posted.


I noticed in someone's sig that they're going to be installing a positive displacement blower onto their car, so I'm thinking that he should know ahead of time, with 'eyes-wide-open', what to expect based upon the experiences of others.

Let's go through my major points/'lies' one-by-one from here:

post #9:
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...&pp<br /> =15

Point #1:
Why do several dyno runs start at 3500 RPM?
It was Marc's recommendation because of severe tip-in detonation problem.
Point #1: confirmed

So Andy, who's really lying here? I said it happened, and Jim confirmed that it happened. Are you going to say that Jim is lying now?

Since I'm not lying, and Jim's not lying, what does that imply about YOU and your erroneous statements?


Point #2:
The grapevine says LOTS of cars are having idling problems. Point #2: confirmed.

Again, who's really lying here? I said it happened, and Jim confirmed that it indeed is an issue. Does that mean Jim is lying, again?

Since I'm not lying, and Jim's not lying, what does that imply about YOU and your erroneous statements?


Point #3: Cracks observed in manifold due to improper manufacturing. Point #3: confirmed!

So Andy, who's lying here? I said it happened, and Bill confirmed that it happened. I guess now that it's a conspiracy and Bill is involved in it too?!

Since I'm not lying, and Bill's not lying, what does that imply about YOU and your erroneous statements?


Point #4:
Leaky/faulty intake manifold due to improper welding possible cause of idle problems.

I contend ONCE AGAIN that 'the many SC's that are having idling problems' should look into the problem experienced here in Point #3, and why I posted this:
So Andy, are you saying that my supposition is incorrect? Am I 'lying' by saying that that raw un-metered air, or vacuum leaks, are not a good thing?
Have you considered that it may very well be that some those cars that are experiencing idle problems may have a faulty intake like Bill's?

Are all those engineering books lying regarding the consequences of vacuum leaks? Am I lying for stating a simple fact from those books?

If I were one of those 'many' experiencing a chronic idle problem that won't go away, I would be checking the intake manifold for cracks, ...toot-sweet!

I just thought of something, those complaining of idle problems, are they lying too??

On a serious note, if cracks are discovered in more intake manifolds, I am confident you're excellent customer support will handle it appropriately.

Point #4: Air-Tight!

So Andy, WTF am I lying about?

Since I'm not lying about anything, what does that say about you and your accusations?

I DON'T??

Marc, think: how do you suppose I knew there was a cracked manifold in the first place? (...McFlyyyy!) In case you didn't 'know', it is a confirmed 'FACT'! (..see Point #3 above) How do you suppose I knew any of these things that are so hush-hush, yet every single point has been independently confirmed?

C'mon Marc, 'splain' it to me!

Well Marc, what does this statement really mean then? It's certainly doesn't fit the description from what others reported:
FACT: I DO!

One must admit that stating such things does not make you look very good.

Of course, what I posted is all true, which make Andy's ranting all the more savory, and pathetic at the same time. And with you chiming it, it looks like I got two birds with one stone.

McFlyyyyyyyy!

Yeah, you and Andy teamed up are a real 'winning' pair!
Too late for that, don't you think? Andy, dispute ANY of the above; EVERYTHING I stated previous has been CONFIRMED!

Oh, and by the way, the one PM I received stated that they removed the kit from their car because it was not something for them, and their car is fine. It also confirmed the pinging I referred to, which Marc fixed with 'some type of valve'.

So Andy, even PRIVATELY my points were confirmed, again!

Wahhhhh!
Maybe if you got your stories straight you wouldn't suffer from your self-inflicted gunshot wounds, and then desperately scramble to blame others.

As for your whining (..say it with a lisp) ' he defamed me!', you pretty much did that to yourself, once again I might add.

Concluding, those 'many' who have chronic idle problems, perhaps a solution is at hand!

 

Lag,
You have some severe issues you need to work out with a therapist before you hurt someone or yourself. I say that with all sincerity.

Your "information" above is still wrong. You don't really care because you will use anything negative you can to try to bring anyone that disagrees with you about anything down. I wish I had time to straighten out all your BS but I don't, and it's that simple.

Can you please point out where I threatened you?

Please send me your full name and address as well.

Thanks,
Andy Keel
310-872-6207

 

ADMIN - PLEASE CLOSE THIS POST.

It is getting horrifically boring, now - plus I am out of popcorn.

Lag - your posts are now comingling so much fact/conjecture/rumor/hearsay along with your personal attacks and "told you so's" that it is IMPOSSIBLE to follow. To us 'outsiders' (I do NOT have a blower, nor do any of the boosters even MAKE a unit for the high compression EURO I have), this appears to be nothing but the personal attack on Andy that has been intimated.

Unless you and Andy have some new reality TV show in development that is a cross between 'Ultimate Fighting Champ' and 'Pinks' - I suggest that you just drop it all, as you are NOT doing yourself any favors now. You are looking like the high school bully...and it is not very becoming to you.

 

Here's the problem, Lag. There is a terrible trend on this board for vendors to viciously attack each other and accuse each other of awful things. The arguments rage completely out of control and end up in ridiculously exaggerated and mean-spirited tirades, like this one. I have seen it many times here. It even happens among our beloved Big3 (er, maybe 5 there Dave and Carl), with one of them or their devotees, jumping on the other accusing them of stealing ideas, copying parts, putting out shoddy products or not combing their hair right. It's all juvenile bull****. People seem to feel the need to attack others in order to affirm their self-appointed position in the world order.

So, I chose one SC kit and someone else chose another. I've seen them all upclose and personal. They are all very good, far better than I could ever built on my own. Each has had some issues. Parts that maybe didn't fit initially, parts that broke, things that leaked, belts that slipped and required a change to the tensioner, fan setups that didn't cool adequately, and tuning issues. Whooptiedoodle. We could discuss all that, but the problem is the OTHER vendors or their devotees would circle above that discussion just waiting for an opportunity to dive in and try to make a kill. So nobody can admit any faults without risking public ridicule here. Everybody is defensive and poised to counterattack. What a lovely environment to share ideas and learn. I guess I'm just blowing in the wind here, and it's rather naive to expect that people could put aside the competitive, egocentric, self-promotion and just try to help. I suppose many people feel like wimps if they don't raise their Web fists at the slightest provocation.

You seem to think it is your appointed role in life to tear Andy down, to question everything he does, to make up cruel fantasies and exaggerations, to amass all his faults and throw them in his face, to attmept to reduce him to nothing, to minimize your faults, to claim total innocence and purity, and to otherwise make this an awful place to communicate without fear of ridicule about the car I love. I could sit here and catalogue problems with other SC kits and try to justify my decision to you, but what's the point? I'm not going to reduce myself to the vindictive, destructive, juvenile level you have.

It is very clear from the level of detail, the extent of your documentation, and the carefully twisted crafting or your replies that you are spending innordinate amounts of time and effort on this. I would say you have some kind of bizarre obsession with nailing Andy to the wall. You may have some rationale that justfies it to you, but seeing the way in which you construct these attacks, pounce relentlessly on whatever you can, leads me to believe you have some serious mental problems.

 

I am personally not in favor of censoring, especially at the request of individual readers. As a consumer of the information contained, I believe there is value in letting these threads run their natural course. Individual posters always have the ability to self censor, even after the fact.

 

It's bad enough at the sandbox between kids, add $$$ to the mix and real fun begins.

 

Yuk,

To be fair I need to qualify my statement.

There are many SC's that are having idling problems and this is good info to know.

This statement reflected what was happening right after install. Bill, Derek and I had idle problems. I never had the time to troubleshoot mine. Derek's is fixed. Bill seems to be the only one to this point to have suffered from anything other than vaccum problems. I know mine was vacuum related because when I dinked around with the MAF connection to the intake it would settle down. Tony's idle problems were vacuum related also. Bills problem could show up in another car and so it is good info to have if everything else has been chased down.

I am still trying fo figure out why Andy doesn't share more on the list...

 

Bill's reply sums it up very well as did what you said in our converstaion yesterday.
EVERYONE knows that I designed my product from scratch, nothing like it existed before for the 928, I had no previous experience even related to this, I've never claimed it's perfect. So even if it didn't even work I probably shouldn't even feel bad. Given that I have nothing to hide.....BUT when there is someone around such as Lag that will use any imperfection to try to destroy anyone that disagrees or conflicts with him, making me and others waste tons of time trying to defend his attacks, it just kinda takes all the fun out of sharing. Makes rennlist a worse place for all of us. All Lag seems to care about is forcing his twisted agenda on rennlisters. As Bill states he seems to spend an inordinate amount of time with this effort and quite frankly it's begining to worry me.
Lag, I have a degree in psychoanalytical based Freudian/Jungian psychology with a 3.91 in my major. You have a mental disorder. I am not the only one that sees this. Please seek help.
Sincerely,
Andy Keel

 

I forgot the

I am still trying fo figure out why Andy doesn't share more on the list...

 

Thats a bit much don't you think? To accuse someone of being mentally unstable just because they hold differing perspectives then you?

 

Andy, well said.

HOWEVER, you forgot the fact that you have affordably brought the best $/hp gain to the DIY community!

Warmest Regards,
Marc

 

Thanks Marc!

Brendan,
It's not about the differing opinions. It's his constant attacks, not just on me. Ask John Kuhn what he thinks. He has even gone so far as to attack John on very personal level.

I'm thinking Narcissistic Personality Disorder, but I'll need to crack open the DSM IV, need to track down a copy.
Sincerely,
Andy Keel

 

Been to OT ?

 

Forgot to mention....Am I the only one that believes that with all the time he spends destroying other's ideas that he must benefit from the sale of a certain supercharger system?
According to the rennlist charter, "If you receive products for free or at a special discount from a vendor you must disclose that information when you make posts regarding that product. Any other type of vested interest that could cause you to potentially have a biased opinion must be disclosed." Hmmmm.....
Andy Keel