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Old 06-22-2005, 09:11 AM
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I just read "Pagid pads (OEM) mushy?" and had a few questions. I have not gotten into mine yet, but changing the brake fluid and 20 year old brake lines is high on the list for my 85S.
Q 1? Bleed the master cyl? Never heard of such a thing on my 911 SC. Where and how do you do it?
Q 2? Nobody mentioned depressing the brake pedal a inch or two while bleeding. Isn't there a check valve in the system?
Old 06-22-2005, 10:38 AM
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Just replaced mine last weekend with a mighty vac (which is something I wouldn't recommend or do again). You can draw out the old fluid through the bleeder valves until you see the clean new fluid. In the end I had my kid pump the brakes. Try the mototive(sp?) speed bleeder everyone raves about it and it's pretty cheap.
Old 06-22-2005, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Greggles
Just replaced mine last weekend with a mighty vac (which is something I wouldn't recommend or do again). You can draw out the old fluid through the bleeder valves until you see the clean new fluid. In the end I had my kid pump the brakes. Try the mototive(sp?) speed bleeder everyone raves about it and it's pretty cheap.
Yep, its as easy as that. While some people rave about all sorts of bleeders, etc. I have always found the "wife or kid on the pedal" is the cheapest, fastest, and best method for doing a brake or clutch bleed.
Old 06-22-2005, 11:04 AM
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Get the speed bleeders! Although you need 8 of them for the Brembo braked cars they do work great and it's a 1 man operation, no more headaches.
Old 06-22-2005, 11:15 AM
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So, do you bleed through the nipple on top or the screw on bottom of brakes. And what are each for.
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I usually operate the brake with my hand while I peer under the car at the corner I'm bleeding. Long hose from bleed screw down into clear jar full of clean brake fluid. When the bubbles stop coming out... you're done. May require a couple pump-up the pressure stints with the bleeder closed between bubble releases. Don't forget to top off master cylinder as you go.

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Get the Motive Bleeder. Poour the new fluid into the bleeder, screw the other end onto the res. and pump it up. Crack the pass. rear bleed nipple untill the fluid changes color. then do the same on the inside nipple (of the brembo's). Then to the dr. side. then pass. front out/in. Clutch slave nipple (-spd cars). dr. front. And lastly crack the nipple on the master cylinder. It helps to take a Turkey baster to suck the old fluid from the res. first. Took me 1/2 hour to bleed it all myself. and that was with changing the Clutch Slave Cylinder WHILE BLEEDING (NOT RECOMMENDED).
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I will never do any bleeding job again without the Motive Bleeder. I think the tool is something like $60 and it can save you a whole day or more of frustration and mess. I think 928 spec. has them.
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Originally Posted by Oldtee
Q 1? Bleed the master cyl? Never heard of such a thing on my 911 SC. Where and how do you do it?
Q 2? Nobody mentioned depressing the brake pedal a inch or two while bleeding. Isn't there a check valve in the system?
Cannot recommend the Motive Power Bleeder enough. Simple to use, clean no mess, you can do the entire operation solo, as mentioned in the other post the most time is spent R&R the wheels and jacking the car.

1)The master cylinder has a bleed nipple on my car........YMMV
2)Depressing the brake pedal is not required at all when using the Motive Power Bleeder

I got my Motive from 928 Specialists, not that expensive

Just checked the 928 Specialists site..........Motive Power Bleeder on sale $39

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Old 06-22-2005, 12:46 PM
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$39 plus S/H and worth every penny. Thanks Jeanie!
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Gee.... nobody answered my two questions.
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Originally Posted by Oldtee
Gee.... nobody answered my two questions.
OK, OK........never heard of question 1 or 2......its just a "normal" brake system and as far as I know you don't have to do either of these.

BTW.......Pagid pads are good (factory supplied in some cases) but produce a lot of dust and chew up rotors pretty quickly. You might want to investigate Mintex or MetalMaster pads (both the same I believe). They hardly dust at all, are usually cheaper, won't chew up the rotors as much, and stop just as well.
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Gee.... nobody answered my two questions.
I'm sure you can make bleeding your brakes more complicated, but it's up to you
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Originally Posted by TeufelHei
$39 plus S/H and worth every penny. Thanks Jeanie!
Called in my order Monday. Arrived Tuesday. Thanks Dave and Jeannie!

I'm going to be replacing my brake master cylinder to make it a bit more interesting.

Oldtee, Hinchcliffe answered your master cylinder question.

I'm not quite sure what you mean with your brake depressing question (I haven't read the Pagid thread). When you are pedal bleeding, you do not push the peddle past where you normally would because you risk tearing the master cylinder seal on corrosion. By check valve, are you refering to speed bleeders?



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