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04-22-2005, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim_H
I currently have many irons in the fire. 
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04-22-2005, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim_H
IMHO dyno charts are the only real world type results though Tony's charts are pretty damn impressive.
The dyno charts can allow comparison of HP in the relevant RPM ranges for upshifting that Carl spoke of - also a good measurement. It can start getting subjective when interpreting the curve within the range, though.
0-60 is a super measurement as it is something that we can relate to. It shows what the HP used in the power curve can actually accomplish. Many runs are necessary due to driver/launch variation, but it is an interesting measure. The amount of launch variation does matter, however.
1/4 mile ditto with 0-60.
Lastly, though, subjective measures should apply as the wants of drivers vary. Some examples: Quietness/Noisiness, consistency, smoothness of acceleration, perceived lag, tame in traffic, easy to work on, future upgrades available, cost.
Dynos are a good means of measuring, but how the modification enhances the driving experience is what matters most. Subjective stuff matters and I have no idea how the whole enchilada can possibly be evaluated without taking actual test drives.
04-22-2005, 04:18 PM
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Time to clear some things up here. The White GT will be back as good as new. So technically I have only killed one GT. Please remember people the White GT was in garage fire, not a wreck. I know some people crossed themselves when I mentioned I was interested in the GT on e-bay and I don't blame them. I have since turned my attention to a few other 928's out there including another GT. Wish it, I mean me luck.
Originally Posted by sharkmeister85
Ahh, just a second here,Jim. What exactly does that mean? You do recall that it was decided last year that you already have had your quota of GT's. If you're thinkin' about getting another.....don't!
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04-22-2005, 04:22 PM
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I'm not trying to "neener neener". It's just that it's going to be a rare occasion when you would be able to get all the Sharks with different induction systems together so coming up with a baseline way of doing comparisons seems like a good idea. The other Forums, aspecially the TT guys talk about the same problem.
I'm not trying to "neener neener". It's just that it's going to be a rare occasion when you would be able to get all the Sharks with different induction systems together so coming up with a baseline way of doing comparisons seems like a good idea. The other Forums, aspecially the TT guys talk about the same problem.
04-22-2005, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim_H
Time to clear some things up here. The White GT will be back as good as new. So technically I have only killed one GT. Please remember people the White GT was in garage fire, not a wreck. I know some people crossed themselves when I mentioned I was interested in the GT on e-bay and I don't blame them. I have since turned my attention to a few other 928's out there including another GT. Wish it, I mean me luck.
04-22-2005, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gretch
Glen, not defending any here.............No desire to. I don't know enough to anoint a King for the masses........I got all the information I needed to satisfy myself, then I spent my money, as have several others here. It would be interesting to see what a blind customer suvey turned up, as opposed to the vendor braying and cross bashing that goes on here.
Problem free replication, reliability and affordability is more important to me than the specific one time performance of a science project. But that is just me.....
Problem free replication, reliability and affordability is more important to me than the specific one time performance of a science project. But that is just me.....
Unfortunately, common sense and clear-thinking just doesn't make for "good copy". For the great, unwashed, naturally-aspirated masses, we need the "Circus Maximmus" to satisfy that "excitement deficit" that only the "blown" classes can enjoy. We simply must have a King. Long live the King! (Is Elvis in the building?). Have a good weekend, y'all! 
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04-22-2005, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim_H
.. So technically I have only killed one GT.
But seriously, have you determined the red GT cannot be saved?Glenn
04-22-2005, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sharkmeister85
Jim, right now its only one (technically). But every serial "killer" starts with that first "one". But seriously, have you determined the red GT cannot be saved?
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But seriously, have you determined the red GT cannot be saved?Glenn
everyone better keep their 928s away from me!
04-22-2005, 05:13 PM
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Mike, you rotten scoundrel, you did it on purpose DIDN'T YA!!! Yeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwww .... jusssssssssssst wanted to taste the SHARKBLOOD ...... yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwww PERVERT!!
04-23-2005, 11:34 AM
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Hey as I see it it is simple. All these guys told me 2 years ago I could never make the power with the Callaway while pointing to a human calculator that was "always right". I proved them very wrong by going to the dynojet (regardless of the lying, misleading and comparing an apple to an orange). Now they make unsubstantiated claims about my setup and turbocharging in general pointing to the supercharger as the only way to go on a 928, even though several others are appling this superior technology to the shark. I now bring documented proof to the table showing that the same vehicle (with an Auto 3-spd) can and will outrun an equal 5-spd CS boosted car when the turbos are applied. Ask youself, since the NA version of the 5-spd and AT show a delta of 0.5 seconds in the 1/4 mile, isn't it fair to say this delta will be at least 0.5 seconds with boost? I say it would be slightly more. Go ahead, bring the dyno chart and keep it in your glovebox, then you can pull it out when the race is over and say "see, I made more peak power so I win" even though you finished 2nd. Hey, we all love competition, don't we? Those who know me well know I am not a cheat, liar or a thief. The numbers I posted here are straight off the G-tech and were done by the book, even though there are lots of hills here in KY.
On another post a guy asked which method of force feeding was better and I gave the answer, pased on performance. It is the same answer you will get from others, so don't think it is just me. You guys don't like that answer and I don't really care. My statements are based on mathematical facts, not opinions. I now bring data to the table to support those statements. Don't like it? Tough. I will stand by my statements that the CS is not the setup to put on an 80 3-spd automatic for the reasons I posted many moons ago. Is the turbo setup more involved? Of couse it is. But it is better.
I'm glad you guys like me better now than you did as John. or John..
On another post a guy asked which method of force feeding was better and I gave the answer, pased on performance. It is the same answer you will get from others, so don't think it is just me. You guys don't like that answer and I don't really care. My statements are based on mathematical facts, not opinions. I now bring data to the table to support those statements. Don't like it? Tough. I will stand by my statements that the CS is not the setup to put on an 80 3-spd automatic for the reasons I posted many moons ago. Is the turbo setup more involved? Of couse it is. But it is better.
I'm glad you guys like me better now than you did as John. or John..
04-23-2005, 11:41 AM
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What posts are you referring to in these 2 statements?
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Originally Posted by Herr-Kuhn
Now they make unsubstantiated claims about my setup and turbocharging in general pointing to the supercharger as the only way to go on a 928,
I now bring documented proof to the table showing that the same vehicle (with an Auto 3-spd) can and will outrun an equal 5-spd CS boosted car when the turbos are applied.
I now bring documented proof to the table showing that the same vehicle (with an Auto 3-spd) can and will outrun an equal 5-spd CS boosted car when the turbos are applied.