Bill Ball

I see what looks like non-US sidemarkers.

Garth S

My SO has it planned that I will be buried inside my favourite ride - so perhaps that qualifies as a 'futures investment' style demise a la 928: the good part about this is that she hasn't yet mumbled anything about a date .....

FlyingDog

Sounds like the reverse of those old Volvo 240 ads with the monster truck and the 2x4 reinforcements inside.

Nicole

You can destroy pretty much anything, if you try hard enough. But it's much harder to rip a 928 apart than an Audi - because of the 928s torque tube.

I read about an 18-year old in GErmany who got a 928 S for his birthday. The fun lasted a few days, then he wrapped it around a tree, killing himself and three of his friends.

bcdavis

In the case of the GTS with the hard side impact, would a full cage with door bars have deflected the impact, or would that kind of impact destroy a cage as well?



By the way, have any of you seen that site before?

I just found it, and noticed that they have a 928 roll cage in their product line...

http://www.racefabinc.com/rollcages.htm

Not bad pricing.

sonny1

Salvador Sanchez,world middle weight champion,Died in Mexico,DF., after shortly after Don King gave him a 928.,cheers,Sonny.

sublimate

DIED: Salvador Sanchez, 23, World Boxing Council featherweight champion and one of the sport's best fighters; of injuries after his Porsche 928 collided with two trucks, just north of Queretaro, Mexico. A school dropout at 16, Sanchez once explained, "I found out that I liked hitting people, and I didn't like school, so I started boxing." A peppery tactician, he wore opponents down for late round knockouts. His record: 43-1-1. "I'd like to step down undefeated," he said last month, "I'm only 23 and have all the time in the world."

Jim bailey - 928 International

A cage might limit the amount of intrusion BUT that simply makes the car stop moving more quickly which increases the chance that the abrupt deceleration of the human body causes injury. In any accident over about 50 mph if you survive or not depends on what you happen to hit and at what attitude. The 928 is very strong , your body is not.

hupp

I don't know, but I'd like to kill my 928 right about now. She's being a real b@$ch....

Nicole

Well said! And in the end it does not matter what the car looks like after the accident - it matters what the passengers look like!

I have clients who are Personal Injury lawyers. One time I was in their offices and noticed a display with a Cadillac Escalade that had slight front damage. It looked kind of like what you'd expect from a fender bender. However, the interior picture showed that the airbags had deployed.

Puzzled about this, I asked them what happened. Well, apparently, the SUV had a colission in which it did not crumple much, but decelerated very hard. The airbag deployed, but nevertheless the driver - a grandmother - slipped forward in her seat enough to hit the dashboard very hard with her knees (this is something that can be avoided easily with proper seat design).

Anyway, the knee damage that lady offered was so severe that she needed two knee replacements and even a year later was not able to walk much, let alone participate in any activities with her husband or grandchildren. I'm not sure who was sued and why, but it reminded me once agan that a steel frame design might be good for a vehicle to survive, but not necessarily for the passengers. One of the [many] reasons why I think SUVs are not very safe.

Fogey1

Flying Dog wrote:
"Sounds like the reverse of those old Volvo 240 ads with the monster truck and the 2x4 reinforcements inside."

Actually the 2X4 cage didn't work, they had to weld in channel iron. I was second chair on that case at the Texas AG.

In one of the settlement conferences (they rolled instantly when they found out we had the cars) I mentioned an old Volvo ad where they stacked several box trucks on top of a sedan. The response was ~ "... those appeared to be complete trucks." If it had been my call, we'd have pursued that answer.

snoz

I saw the aftermath of a fatality in a 928 in Manhattan KS. The driver was racing a vette and hit a steel railroad crossing pole. The driver lost control and hit the pole in the middle of the driver’s door. Even though she was thrown from the crash, the passenger lived. I sat and watched for about an hour and they never attempted to extricate the driver. It appeared to be an extremely violent impact. I remember being impressed that the car stayed in one piece. I don't think there are many cars that are going to protect you from an impact like that.

FlyingDog

I had 3 friends in high school die when the mid-90s Toyota Camry they were in was sliced in half by a telephone pole at somewhere between 65 and 85MPH. The guy in the rear seat was identified by an EMT who knew him by the gold pendant they found.

It's amazing what some cars can take and others can't. I'm glad that 928s seem to be very survivable in accidents.

IcemanG17

Bill
That is a seriously damaged 928! It does look like a right hand drive car! My guess is both driver and passenger suffered serious (if not fatal) injuries!

Jim brings up an excellent point about the strength of a car vs the strength of your body. A previous job I had was a deputy-coroner (not fun at all). I responded to several traffic fatalities. A couple were really odd, the car was moderately damaged (sometimes worse)....the driver was intact with no obvious broken bones or injuries (except that they were not alive)....the cause of death would always be "trama induced cardiac arrest" Its all about G-forces....slow down too fast & you'll get hurt! I don't miss that job at all!

Jim bailey - 928 International

I think most have seen the crash dummy tests on TV . It is worth noting that the Insurance Institute offset frontal crash where 40 % of the front end hits a DEFORMABLE aluminum honeycomb barrier (it crushes like another car) the HIGH SPEED test is done at 40 MPH yes that is it 40 mph into a soft barrier!! The NHTSA feds "high speed "test into a fixed rigid barrier for full frontal impact into a SOLID wall at the amazing speed of 35 MPH ! The test facility for the NHTSA has the capability of testing up to about 75 MPH but there is little point it simply is not survivable. So the tests you see on TV are typically happening at 40 MPH into a soft barrier. Now what was that formula about the energy involved going up based on speed ???