mpesik

Air bags are put into cars because Dopes don't buckle up! I don't like the lower shelf either!! I always hit it with my shoe's; also it looks kinda cheap!

BrianG

Shane / Rich....... Give us a yell and I think I can round up another 3-4 cars for the adventure. And Shane, Andy has sent the pics of my just powdercoated Gruppo. That kit's phat!

GT Jackson

My 86.5 has the sports seats with the side body bolsters. I haven't seen these on any other 928 as of yet but I'm sure they are out there. Anybody have a option code for them?

Nicole

I think those sports seats were optional from MY '85 to the end of production. Keith Widom's GTS has them, if I recall correctly, And there are lots of others that do - they are not that rare, actually.

Vilhuer

'78-84 style sport seats are rarer it seems.

Nicole

Hi Rich:

I respectfully disagree with you on many points you are making here. If you think that bracing yourself for an accident will help, well, then you must be Mr. Universe times 10 - the forces in a serious accident are so high, there is no way you can fight them...

For more details, see this thread, post #32:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/164505-coolest-steering-wheel.html

Nevertheless, if you don't want a car with airbags, you can save a lot of money by purchasing an older model. There is nothing wrong with the '89 or even the previous models, if they have been well taken care of. Buy whatever makes you happy!

Nicole

I am not sure when the early style sports seats were introduced - I think this was not before the early 80ies, maybe MY 82. I'd have to do some digging to find out for sure.

The first 928 I ever rode in - the brown metallic MY 1983 photo car - had those seats, but I did not notice at the time. I was too overwhelmed by the smell of the leather and the incredible power. I remember the seats of that car to be quite comfortable, but would not want them because of the way they look... Picky me thinks I'd cover them up with sheepskins or something - LOL!

Vilhuer

928 Specialists site lists M409 and M410 options for '78-82 model years but list is far from absolute truth.

http://www.928gt.com/928specs/928code.htm#928codes

I thought they were available from early on, maybe even '78. Only ones I have seen live is '84. They were definitely more comfortable than later style sports. Only 12-way adjustable sport seats (ultra rare it seems) in one local '86 944 Turbo were better. Now those were perfect when correctly adjusted.

Cameron

A few pics of my GT here.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/neegin.../ph//my_photos

.....Cameron
'91 Euro GT

heinrich

Hi Rich :-) What Shane said ....

Rich there are MANY MANY changes over the years in 928 interiors. As examples, some early cars had rear passenger cigarette lighters and ashtrays and oh-**** handles. Seat belts were lap belts a la 944. Rear seats up to end-86 were hinged on a steel rod but later had detatchable hinges. Inbetween all of this, up to then, you could have a rear saddle between the rear seats of the lockable console with ashtray. No rear ac was offered afaik till after 1983.

All years had full-leatheroptions, but very few had this because of the immense expense (we're talking more than just 10k). Early cars had pushbutton seat releases and bulkier seats with big controls, and after 1985 (incl) the fronts had S4 style slimmer seats with 8-way; 12-way lumbar or all that and memory in either or both or none of the seats.

The trays have been mentioned, they were deleted as said. I happen to like them and they too came in leather or vinyl. Dashes were originally leather or vinyl, and this continued throughout, but design changed immensely, airbags were fitted in I believe 1990 which caused the dash design to radically change, and the kick panel was introduced.

Throughout, cars came with sunroof or without. Euro's were more likely to have no sunroofs. Shifter length was lowered after 1984 and again after 1989. **** I believe changed too in the GTS range.

Instruments changed too. The original dashes had no air intake for the temp sensor (the black hole in the center console at the dash) ... this came in 1982 I think. Btw early centre consoles like that do not really fit later cars well. You have to make them fit. Early cars had round clock and seatbelt light in the position where later cars have LCD or (rare) analog clock and rear ac controls (or nothing). Early cars had no sunroof switches or rear wiper switch at the later location. In stead the wiper switch is in the pod. S4's and earlier have the zero-out for the odo in the pod but later cars have it in a unit under the centre vent. Early cars have speaker frt-rear switches in the handbrake enclosure, deleted after 1986. Sunroofless cars have a vanity mirror under the passenger visor. Visors also came in leather or vinyl and some had sliding shutters, others not. Door panels changed as mentioned. Early door vents were rounded, later not, to accommodate extra switches such as seat memory, for which early cars have no hole. Some cars had CD containers (option) in the doors. Some had no coin keepers in the doors. I've seen very early Euro cars with two speaker perforation sets ... one large, one small in the doors. Those cars also have a small speaker perforation in the very far rear, unlike later ones with perforations only at the rear passenger hips. Some cars had sport seats (early and later style, changed in 1985). Some cars had Pash cloth (checkers) and some Porsche lettering embossed, and the Ferrry Porsche Edition Weissach model had his signature on the headrest (only early style seats).

The early cars had a vinyl clip-on tool panel and different tools. Later ones had the screw-and-twist panel with carpet. Early cars had no rear hatch release, so their tool panels have no bulge to accommodate the motor there. Early cars have captured centre console side panels, that's why so many are broken ... later cars have them slotted and slide out.

Early windshields and later ones have no antenna, only I think 1985 - 1989 have an antenna embedded.

Instruments: there was a fuel consumption gauge in the later early cars only. Auto shift display was in and not in many different models, and in different places. Auto cars have different tachs from 5-speeds. Since I think 1990, the dash is electronic display style with outside air temp display, and all sorts of info via a pull lever. Trip odo reset is also on a stalk in these years.

Euro cars have a panel on the lower pod that has I think dimmer and intensive washer controls. Euros also have headlight height vacuum control, but that went away afaik.

All this is different for Euro cars in later years, because we saw a 1986 Euro with perforated doors and many older car interior pieces.

(edited) Early cars had no centre cassette box and I think later (GTS) had CD fins in it, not cassette fins. Early parcel covers are clip-overs and later ones are suspended from the rear quarters and hatch.
(edited2) early central vents are screw-know, later ones are slide.
(edited3) steering wheels went from 911 style 3-spoke to 928/carrera/959-style pad with "928" embossed to "Porsche" embossed to 964-style airbag.
(edited4) post-1989, carpets dropped the silly coconut hair and foam rubber and went with moulded rubber attached firmly to the carpets. Oh yes and post-1988 there were rear seat belts (3-point)
(edited5) Thanks Dave, corrected early odo info)

There's more but I don't feel like typing anymore

Vilhuer

It's silicon fluid on earlier cars and changed to electric motors in '89.

This purely depends on what stereo was ordered. Part of the reason why original high end audio system was ridiculously expensive option in here.

I think casette/CD holder depending on what radio was selected all the way up to '95.

SharkSkin

FYI, My 78 has the odo reset as the bottom left switch in the pod.

Rich Sandor

It seems there is enough incentive to go for an 89 over an 87 or 88.

now I just gotta find one that's exactly the right colour combo for exactly the right price! ha. easier said than done!

thanks for all the info guys!!!

ColinB

Rich
Good call. The 89 and up have the digital dash with trip computer and extra electrickery. I get a lot of pleasure out of using mine on long trips.

Colin 89 GT

Rich Sandor

Colin - your car is gorgeous. I'd love to find an 89 with that colour combo. I like the 996 wheels too!



PS: Cape Town? Cool. I used to work with a guy from there.. his dad owns the Mariner's Wharf..