fender rolling
11-18-2004, 01:07 PM
#16
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Originally Posted by Mark
That looks very similar to the tool that DR has. A couple of folks used it at SITM this year. I'd give Dave/Jeanie/Sam a call and see if they'll lend/rent/etc it to you.
I've got a Louisville I'd let you use for free.
11-18-2004, 04:09 PM
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most of it was done with a baseball bat. remember,im running 17mmgt spacers too. As another note, the actual width of a 335 is the same as a 305 and 315 when all mounted on a 11" rim. i know it sounds funny, but its true.
to fit the 335s on my car when i was using 305s , i pulled out the bat and had to roll about 1/4" farther out. the fenders are stretched to the max right now.
so, the rim offset needs to be 82mm (8" backspacing) 17 or 18", on devek level II suspension. alignment is basically agressive street. 1.5ish degree front and 2 in the rear. 305s actually are a tad smaller, and 1/8" effectively however, without the spacer we have done two other cars with only the bat. we have lots of room on Scots racer running 305s on 10" rims not much effort to make this fit.
mk
to fit the 335s on my car when i was using 305s , i pulled out the bat and had to roll about 1/4" farther out. the fenders are stretched to the max right now.
so, the rim offset needs to be 82mm (8" backspacing) 17 or 18", on devek level II suspension. alignment is basically agressive street. 1.5ish degree front and 2 in the rear. 305s actually are a tad smaller, and 1/8" effectively however, without the spacer we have done two other cars with only the bat. we have lots of room on Scots racer running 305s on 10" rims not much effort to make this fit.
mk
Originally Posted by Tony
Ok, so you are running 335s on the rear of the Holbert S4? Wow!
Done with a baseball bat?
Id love to see some closer pictures.
Whats the rim size and offset.
What coilover packaage and ride ght are you running?
I wouldnt need an odd ball track type of alignement to get that kind of fitment would i?
is the pic above of the 335s on the car?
Done with a baseball bat?
Id love to see some closer pictures.
Whats the rim size and offset.
What coilover packaage and ride ght are you running?
I wouldnt need an odd ball track type of alignement to get that kind of fitment would i?
is the pic above of the 335s on the car?
06-17-2005, 07:11 PM
#18
Originally Posted by Ketchmi
Eastwood's fender lip roller does not fit the 5/130 bolt pattern found on our Porsches, ask me how I know........I just sent it back. Tire Rack sells them also for about $500 and they do fit the 5/130 bolt pattern.
Dave
Dave
Well, I need to get one that won't take too much rigging to work.
The tirerack site says this: http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/tools/fenderlip.jsp
his professional quality fender lip rolling tool is designed to maximize the wheel well clearance when upgrading to a larger Tire & Wheel Package or when installing fender flares. Can also be used to repair wheel area damage.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
06-17-2005, 07:39 PM
#19
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Brendan,
I just rolled mine using the technique described by Mark. It worked very well and wasn't too difficult. Now fitted with 17 x 11.5" using 315's on the rear.
I plan on posting some photos soon.
D
I just rolled mine using the technique described by Mark. It worked very well and wasn't too difficult. Now fitted with 17 x 11.5" using 315's on the rear.
I plan on posting some photos soon.
D
06-17-2005, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg Gray
Just like Tony says, I like to see some photos, I thought that you had your rear fenders flaired? What is the widest tire you believe a non flared 928 can run? That is of course with the fenders rolled. I always thought it was 295mm. Any wider and it was my belief that you needed to modify the inner wheel well. Please correct me if I am wrong.
06-17-2005, 07:59 PM
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great Derek, i told you that bat technique works real well. plus with the tire being used as the "roller" too, you know where you need to go. with the machine, you are kind of working in the dark. the baseball bat, kept upright as possible, and the helper using reverse gear and forward, can roll the fender better than any machine. key thing is keeping the bat upright and as close to the inside of the fender as possible (without letting the end of the bat do damage inside the fender and up higher than you are working)
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06-17-2005, 08:05 PM
#22
I have already flared and smoothed and primed the rear fenders on my 78. I used some tools I took some pics of in the thread I posted after it was done. I am going to get the proper tool for the front as I wish not to funk it up. And I don't have a baseball bat anyway - also, I want to do it NOW, not when I can get the 650 lb engine in the car so the fender is within "batting" distance to the front fender. 
06-18-2005, 09:36 AM
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I recall that DR's Euro is non-flared but rolled to squeeze those
fat tires on.
There was a nice 928GT at Lime Rock when I was there getting rained on.
I checked out the factory fender rolling and it was nice.
Glad owner didn't mind me feeling up the fenders. Front and rear.
Porsche precise rolling.
Ernest (NYC)
fat tires on.
There was a nice 928GT at Lime Rock when I was there getting rained on.
I checked out the factory fender rolling and it was nice.
Glad owner didn't mind me feeling up the fenders. Front and rear.
Porsche precise rolling.
Ernest (NYC)
06-20-2005, 02:29 PM
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can be one, but you have to roll against the friction of the tire. much of my rolling is done that way, but the major rolling is a two man job. one at the throttle and one with the bat. especially, the initial bending of the inner lip.
MK
MK
Originally Posted by jserio
Mark, Is your Process a one man or 2 man job?
06-20-2005, 02:44 PM
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thats why i cant stress enough, two guys, keep the bat vertical, and you will be ok! once that bat goes off vertical, you can end up with the bat wings like Heinrich says!
MK
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Originally Posted by heinrich
be careful. I've seen rolled fenders that ended up looking like wings because they were rolled aggressively. The idea is only to narrow the lip.
