jorj7

Got tired of all the polls and have been playing around with
a new video editor, redigitized an old video from the 2003
Pony Express and added photos, text and gps log data.
The video is not as clear as the 2004 Gamblers Run clip,
as it's from a Hi-8 tape instead of mini-DV. Here is a 23
mb mpeg-1 sample plus cover art of the SVCD. (high speed l
ink recommended).


http://sis125.berkeley.edu/928/mpeg/2003-pe-ad.mpg

Or a 13 mb wmv version
http://sis125.berkeley.edu/928/mpeg/2003-pe-ad.wmv
for a little faster download.

mspiegle

nice download speeds... 800kbps.

So the actual disk is 36 minutes of 100mph++ driving with music?

jorj7

Yep, 36 minutes of high speed driving with music. There's even a
little text commentary. If you have a real fast link you can try
http://sis125.berkeley.edu/928/mpeg/2003-pe-svcd.mpg
for the mpeg-2 version (SVCD quality) , still not as good
of quality as the the mini-DV tape from the 2004 Gamblers Run.
( http://members.rennlist.org/jorj7/vi...art-sample.mpg,
but slower link)

mspiegle

yup, the larger mpeg is what i grabbed. thx for the shark media!

Tahoe Shark

Hey George,

Are you still selling these? I will buy both of the completed video's if you are. Either post your address or PM it to me. I'll send you a check.

mark kibort

George, nice clips. Like the MPH updates on the screen. I dont know, i still prefer K-walls along side when im going 150+!!! I was just trying to invision where you would end up if you had to go off track(road).

be safe!


Mk

jorj7

Mark,

I don't think hitting a wall at 150 is any safer then driving into
the desert sage brush. Of course on a track you're not usually
over 130 mph with an average of maybe 90. In the ORR, I'm
at 165+ for over 40 miles of a 100 mile course with an average
of 155 mph. In either case, it's dangerous, but so is driving on
the Bay Area streets...

And as I PM'ed Tim, the SVCD disks are still for sale, $10 each
+ $4.30 shipping (in US). Paypal id is jorj7@sis125.berkeley.edu
or email me for my home address.

mark kibort

Thats the beauty of the K-walls lining a fast track. you never really go into them at full speed, usually something much less and you bounce and spin until all the energy is disappated slowly and it is all gone and you then stop. Ernhart didnt hit the wall at 180mph, his impact was around 20 to 30mph tops. what killed him was a loose harness, open face helmet and the neck snap/separation. the guy next to him, hitting at the same speed, walked away unhurt.

Not to diverge, but yes, at a track such as road America, where i got to 154mph and anderson was in the high 160s, there is certainly an issue of impact if you loose your brakes, where in open road racing that would not be as bad, but then agian, you dont use brakes out there do you? ha ha! (that was my only fear driving at RA)

I agree, i see a bunch of wrecks, some pretty bad every week here in the bay area on city streets. we also see a ton of wrecks at the track, but the drivers all usually seem to walk away from them. I guess my only concern for open road racing is that if you have a mechanical, flat etc, you are flying off in to unknown. on the track, that same mechanical will often just cost you the car as you ping pong down the K-wall lined track.

mk

Bill Ball

Actually an off-road excursion in ORR is probably worse than hitting the K-wall even at high speed because you don't often just get to mosey off into the desert sage brush. George forgot to mention that the roads have a pronounced crown and are lined with deep drainage ditches on both side throughout much of the course. So, almost all high-speed off-roaders end up getting pitched a hundred feet or so across the sage before they come back to earth and flip 4 or 5 times. And if they happen to land upright and get turned back towards the road they get launched into space again. It's happened. The goal with any ORR mishaps, like blown tires or animal impacts, is to keep the car on the road.

Richard S

Going off road during an ORR will result in SERIOUS damage. It isn't just coasting off the road into the tumbleweeds.....many areas have deep ditches, little hills, fences, etc. Best case you can hope for is to coast along the roadway to a turnout manned by a course worker. Otherwise, expect your car to be destroyed if you fly off the road at speed. It happened at this years Pony Express and Silver State events. Both cars rolled/flipped several times, cars destroyed but drivers were unhurt (thanks to roll cages and safety gear). Seeing a car wadded up is sobering....ORR is serious stuff, we try to reduce some of the risks, but in reality those risks are still high. However, driving at those speeds along open highways, roads, etc with other vehicles as well as oncoming traffic is NUTS! Reading stories of "I just went XXXmph on I-5" is scary and stupid. (And yes, some will also say that driving those speeds at an ORR is also scary and stupid. That's fine. )


Watch the footage during the WRC races on Speed Channel, those cars go off all the time, it's amazing the drivers/navigators don't get hurt more often. Scary stuff.

Rich

jorj7

Guys,

Yes, crashing in an ORR race is bad. The last two years, there have been
3 off road crashes, two in the 170 class and 1 in the Unlimited. In all cases
the the drivers have walked away from the crash, and the cars were totaled.
In two cases it was the tires, and the other it was thought to be too much
speed into a corner, then over braking and lose of control. There have also
been a couple of tire failures and the drivers have been able to keep the
cars on the road (also in the 170 or above classes). That's one of the reasons
that tires are the most important safety items to consider. It's also one
of the reasons that MKM doesn't have an unlimited class any more. There
are very few tires that are rated over 200 mph for highway use. The highest
rated DOT street tires was Y rated at 186 mph. They've just added the (Y)
rating which MKM will tech at 207 mph. To run the Unlimited class or above
207 , tires are required to have manufactures certificates stating the max
speed ratings with specific serial numbers of the tires. It's also important to
know your own limitations.

IcemanG17

George
Nice video and stay safe out there!!! So with your supercharger what is your top speed?