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Old 08-31-2021 | 07:18 PM
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I searched the manual and know it must be there, but I can't find it. Can someone advise what the torque is for the front pump bolts? The manual states to use "specified torque", but I don't see it specified. These are the 4 bolts identified as #1 in the picture. This is an '88 MY auto trans,
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Old 08-31-2021 | 07:53 PM
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That's a trick question, given your picture of a 3 speed (1983 and earlier) front housing.

There's 6 bolts holding the pump into the front assembly on an '88.
14 ft.lbs.is the specification.
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….and one more newbie question: as regards the front cover bolt torque on my transmission. Does the 10 ft-lb torque mentioned below apply to the front cover bolts of my ‘88?
…and yes Stan, Vaseline is applied to both the inside copper bushing and the outside thrust washer (also?).
Old 10-20-2021 | 07:18 AM
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Bump please
Old 10-20-2021 | 09:08 AM
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@mj1pate : Do you have a copy or link to Rob Edwards' torque compilation? I am reasonably sure these are in there and can be found via his signature.

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Old 10-20-2021 | 11:03 AM
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+1.
Rob Edward's torque compilation link:
Comprehensive S4+ bolt lengths and torque values spreadsheet - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
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Its very good! I saved the spreadsheet, but there's no values for auto transmissions.
Rob mentioned “DISCLAIMER: A- this isn't complete, it's specific for a 5-speed S4+ cars, so all the auto-tranny specific stuff is missing.”
I still need vetting that the 10ft-lb mentioned for the pump front cover bolts applies to my ‘88 auto trans

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Old 10-21-2021 | 01:12 PM
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So, bump again. Please see my response just above
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9 ft.lbs., according to the factory manual.
This is with a fresh layer of Curil K2 all the way on the threads and under the head.
The Curil K2 reduces the friction on the threads and under the head of the bolt, thus the low torque.
If you are not cleaning off the residual Curil K2 and recoating, I'd torque them to 14 ft.lbs...same as the oil pump torque.

BTW....
I've kinda ignored your question.
Providing information isn't my job. I do it to help 928 owners who appreciate what I have to offer.
I've already answered two of your questions regarding your repair.
Without a thank you or a go to hell.....
At the very least, a "like" would at least be a sign you appreciate my time.
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Thanks Greg! It’s been about a year since this repair began, I think it may actually come together without leaking or TC/shaft welding in place only by virtue of the free advice from highly specialized pro sponsors (Greg Brown) and members including Stan and others. My phone browser has collected about 30 browser page instances including threads by members having done similar work. I’ve decided on giving back by creating a thread with references to different aspects of this work, pointing to specifics in various threads. There are so many ways to end up with a car-for-sale-on-trailer result, with under-qualified people (mj1pate) doing this level of work.
I've also learned a great deal about limits. Down-sizing before retirement and shifting priorities doesn’t share space well with a certain resident, long-term living on the lift that is needed for “normal” jobs on “practical” cars. And… heavens, big Porsche pieces are crammed everywhere, in front of a very patient wife. There is no balance between assembling a Porsche and visiting grand kids. Grand kids win. And this is the last hurrah, before passing on a vehicle that should have useful life left.
So after this weekend, stuffing an ‘88 trans into an ‘86.5 will commence… slowly. Hopes of getting it stuffed before we get down to 22 degrees is in question. And boy do I have a garage full of special purpose tools purchased just for this job to likewise downsize along with everything else.
I will NOT forget to submit that compilation trans pump seals/TC bearing/disassembly-reassembly thread. This kind of knowledge assembly should not evaporate at the end of a project. Thanks to everyone, Greg, other Pros, Stan, members who have supported in some way. About 45% labor still remains to be done. That kind of labor at this age sounds like a great AARP story.

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