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Old 10-11-2021, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FredR
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It would also be of interest if you can measure the thrust bearing flange thickness on both the foobarred side and the "good" side.

Together with the crank dimension we should then be able to fathom out exactly how much metal disappeared from where. ..



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Nice pictures and should be a warning to anyone with an automatic 928, no matter the year. Very lucky the thrust bearing didn't seize itself to the crank and start ruining the block.

Auto 928 owners, check your end play measurements at the next oil change, check your drain plug for any silvery sludge buildup and your oil filter for any metal shards. Have known more than a few owners who invested a lot of money into their auto 928s, only to discover the engine had suffered a TBF event and needed a rebuild. At least if you catch it early like this example, you will limit the monetary pain.

Kevin, how any miles are on this example?





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Looks as though the bearing lost 20 thou- I suspect most of that will have been soft metal so maybe the crank has not lost much metal.
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Originally Posted by Constantine
Nice pictures and should be a warning to anyone with an automatic 928, no matter the year. Very lucky the thrust bearing didn't seize itself to the crank and start ruining the block.

Auto 928 owners, check your end play measurements at the next oil change, check your drain plug for any silvery sludge buildup and your oil filter for any metal shards. Have known more than a few owners who invested a lot of money into their auto 928s, only to discover the engine had suffered a TBF event and needed a rebuild. At least if you catch it early like this example, you will limit the monetary pain.

Kevin, how any miles are on this example?
116k
Old 10-11-2021, 03:53 PM
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Kevin I think I can see the crack look closer at the bottom of the upper half
Old 10-11-2021, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Anderson
Kevin I think I can see the crack look closer at the bottom of the upper half
Hard to get a good picture, but that is a 'z' shaped scratch. How it got there is a mystery to me.
Old 10-11-2021, 08:30 PM
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A bit far from you but I just came acceoos this on kijiji.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-moteurs/gran...ock/1580892003
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Here's a better picture of the scratch in question.

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A bit far from you but I just came across this on kijiji.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-moteurs/gran...ock/1580892003
Thanks - a bit too far. Thanks.
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Finally advancing of the TBF engine. Assembled the block yesterday. Added the pistons today.


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Originally Posted by Kevin in Atlanta
Finally advancing of the TBF engine. Assembled the block yesterday. Added the pistons today.

Original block?
Different block?
Old 11-21-2021, 09:27 PM
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Original block. New crankshaft, new bearings and crossed fingers.
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Originally Posted by Kevin in Atlanta
Original block. New crankshaft, new bearings and crossed fingers.
Center main measured OK after bearing spun or align bored back to Std?
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Crank End Play after new bearings:


We are putting a Super Clamp on it.

The block surfaces looked really good. Did not measure it. Was not going to change our decision to use the block we know. The spend for new parts including the Super Clamp was less than a good short block. And finding an 89 short block, well that is impossible. That goes for any S4 block.








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