Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

1980 928 clutch return

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-25-2021, 12:28 PM
  #1  
Larry 928
Cruisin'
Thread Starter
 
Larry 928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Charlotte NC
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question 1980 928 clutch return

Hi, in process of reviving my neglected garaged 928s. The clutch depress but does not return freely. ?? Fluid, slave, ?? Ideas ! Thanks, Larry
Old 06-25-2021, 03:29 PM
  #2  
Mrmerlin
Team Owner
 
Mrmerlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philly PA
Posts: 28,361
Received 2,507 Likes on 1,412 Posts
Default

if you have questions like this i would suggest that you revive the whole clutch system
pilot brg
TOB,
guide tube,
discs,
PP,
release arm bushing,
master cylinder modded to an 75mm length with a reduced length coil spring.
new blue hose,
new slave,
new Greg Brown flex line from the swaybar mount to the slave,
replaces the flex and short hard line over the starter .
while your at it get a new master cylinder and brake booster swap those in as well.
Old 06-25-2021, 04:05 PM
  #3  
Larry 928
Cruisin'
Thread Starter
 
Larry 928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Charlotte NC
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
if you have questions like this i would suggest that you revive the whole clutch system
pilot brg
TOB,
guide tube,
discs,
PP,
release arm bushing,
master cylinder modded to an 75mm length with a reduced length coil spring.
new blue hose,
new slave,
new Greg Brown flex line from the swaybar mount to the slave,
replaces the flex and short hard line over the starter .
while your at it get a new master cylinder and brake booster swap those in as well.
Thanks, Greg Brown. I read last night thru the many comments on the “Barn Find” clutch saga. Whew !
Old 06-25-2021, 04:12 PM
  #4  
Larry 928
Cruisin'
Thread Starter
 
Larry 928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Charlotte NC
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks Mrmerlin for the comments regarding the GB hose ! I assumed a complete clutch review is necessary and thought a return spring might be the problem as I had on a car any years ago. , Larry
Old 06-25-2021, 04:58 PM
  #5  
Mrmerlin
Team Owner
 
Mrmerlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philly PA
Posts: 28,361
Received 2,507 Likes on 1,412 Posts
Default

NOTE replacing one part guarantees others will soon fail then you can revisit this issue again soon.
my suggestion is to fix it once and move on.
The following users liked this post:
Daniel5691 (06-26-2021)
Old 06-26-2021, 09:14 AM
  #6  
Petza914
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Petza914's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Clemson, SC
Posts: 26,003
Received 6,592 Likes on 4,190 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
if you have questions like this i would suggest that you revive the whole clutch system
pilot brg
TOB,
guide tube,
discs,
PP,
release arm bushing,
master cylinder modded to an 75mm length with a reduced length coil spring.
new blue hose,
new slave,
new Greg Brown flex line from the swaybar mount to the slave,
replaces the flex and short hard line over the starter .
while your at it get a new master cylinder and brake booster swap those in as well.
Don't gloss over the highlighted item in Stan's response
Old 06-26-2021, 02:12 PM
  #7  
PorKen
Inventor
Rennlist Member

 
PorKen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 10,167
Received 409 Likes on 226 Posts
Default

It sounds counterintuitive but when there is air in the clutch hydraulic system the pressure plate cannot push the pedal back into position (cannot overcome the assist spring).
The following users liked this post:
Daniel5691 (06-26-2021)
Old 08-03-2021, 10:37 PM
  #8  
Larry 928
Cruisin'
Thread Starter
 
Larry 928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Charlotte NC
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default ‘80 928 clutch.

Raised and reverse gear engages, forward(2nd) engages sporadically then coasts to stop even though engine at 1500 rpm. Stopped as didn’t want to overheat the clutch. Mice had feasted in my sunflower seed and shared space in the engine compartment. I’m humiliated but ask for advice with this status
Old 07-17-2024, 01:37 PM
  #9  
LEBARK
6th Gear
 
LEBARK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

HI Marlin
What is "TOB" and
What is PP
Regards

Old 07-17-2024, 01:45 PM
  #10  
Kevin in Atlanta
Rennlist Member
 
Kevin in Atlanta's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Roswell, GA
Posts: 8,168
Received 816 Likes on 491 Posts
Default

Throw out bearing.
Pressure plate.
The following users liked this post:
Mrmerlin (07-18-2024)
Old 07-17-2024, 02:25 PM
  #11  
LEBARK
6th Gear
 
LEBARK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2024
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hi Mr Merlin

What is "TOB" ?
and "PP" ?

Regards
Old 07-18-2024, 12:15 PM
  #12  
Mrmerlin
Team Owner
 
Mrmerlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Philly PA
Posts: 28,361
Received 2,507 Likes on 1,412 Posts
Default

Kevin answered it correctly in post 10
Old 07-27-2024, 02:20 PM
  #13  
Fugi
Track Day
 
Fugi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Kansas City Metro
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Would anyone recommend going to a single clutch vs. replacing the dual clutch?
Old 07-27-2024, 02:59 PM
  #14  
Kiln_Red
Rennlist Member
 
Kiln_Red's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bowling Green, KY
Posts: 1,600
Received 275 Likes on 146 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Fugi
Would anyone recommend going to a single clutch vs. replacing the dual clutch?
I don't know what others might suggest, but I personally prefer the earlier clutch. I'm not sure why anyone would switch from one system to the other, as they're both robust and adequate for their respective applications.
Old 07-27-2024, 03:13 PM
  #15  
Fugi
Track Day
 
Fugi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Kansas City Metro
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Thanks for your prompt reply. Who do you think is the resident dual clutch installation and troubleshooting professional in the US?


Quick Reply: 1980 928 clutch return



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 06:21 AM.