Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

Impact force

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-22-2004 | 04:50 PM
  #31  
hacker-pschorr's Avatar
hacker-pschorr
Administrator
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,629
Likes: 2,248
From: Up Nort
Default

I'm guessing audiworld is not setup for the amout of volume they received when these pictures went web-wide.
Old 03-22-2004 | 04:57 PM
  #32  
SteveM928's Avatar
SteveM928
Instructor
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Default

Originally posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Post from the Audi board:

It's a fake, reasons:

There is no blood.
Most of the blood would be on the bodies or on the inside of the car on the side that impacted the tree. That area isn't shown in any of the pictures. Looks like an airbag draped on the passenger side seat in a couple of pictures.

There is no fuel/oil/water or anything. You will note the engine is clean of fluids as is the rear of the car (fuel tank) which has crashed backwards into a tree.
The gas tank appears to be reasonably intact. There's no way of knowing how long after the actual crash the pictures were taken. If it happened the night before or something like that, any spilled gas would have evaporated or soaked into the ground. No telling how much gas was actually in the tank at the time of the crash either.

There is no glass. If you pay any attention to the scene you will notice there is no glass anywhere not in the car, on the ground or left in any of the frames.
Either the windshield or rear window can be seen laying on the ground near the rear section of the car in six of the pictures. If the windows were open when it happened, most of the other glass would be in the doors. That glas that wasn't there could easily be broken into small fragments and scattered around the area.

The ground is unbroken. Given that most of the crashed components are sharp and quite heavy the ground is not broken, look again at the engine if that had flown out of the car and crashed into the gound...
The ground is disturbed and pushed up as can be seen in the second, sixth, seventh, ninth, tenth, and most easily in the twelveth pictures.

If it is a Photoshop fake, the person who did it even went to the extreme of putting the bark that was knocked off the trees on the ground in those areas. The same goes for the very recently broken off and still green tree branch knocked of due to the impact and laying there.

Is that the remains of a key in the ignition switch, or something else? Stolen car maybe?
Old 03-22-2004 | 06:18 PM
  #33  
hacker-pschorr's Avatar
hacker-pschorr
Administrator
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,629
Likes: 2,248
From: Up Nort
Default

I found the thread, the initial one was deleted. Here is a link inside the thread:

http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1586493.phtml


I found some of the pics around the thread, here they are:





Old 03-22-2004 | 06:40 PM
  #34  
Beth's Avatar
Beth
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,058
Likes: 0
From: Napa, Ca
Default

wow . . . . . .
Old 03-22-2004 | 06:43 PM
  #35  
Drewster67's Avatar
Drewster67
Nordschleife Master
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,848
Likes: 1
From: Gilbert, AZ
Default

HP - Thanks for posting the pics.

That is truly sad - I dunno what else to say?.
Old 03-22-2004 | 06:43 PM
  #36  
Lizard928's Avatar
Lizard928
Nordschleife Master
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,600
Likes: 34
From: Abbotsford B.C.
Default

I would definatly say that it is a stolen car, look at the key and the stereo
Old 03-22-2004 | 07:52 PM
  #37  
sweanders's Avatar
sweanders
Race Director
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 11,252
Likes: 2
From: Sweden
Default

The key looks like the origanl flip-blade style Audi key.
Old 03-22-2004 | 08:23 PM
  #38  
bcdavis's Avatar
bcdavis
Drifting
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,348
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

Yeah... Stock key. With the fob ripped off...
And the stereo cover probably flew off along with everything else in the car!
Old 03-23-2004 | 02:17 AM
  #39  
JohanvdWalt's Avatar
JohanvdWalt
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 999
Likes: 13
From: Pretoria South Africa
Default

I could not understand why the person who posted the photo's did not tell the story till I found out where he got it from, here is the original link:

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newpho.../bad351b.shtml

Some other interesting stuff around there as well.

Johan
Old 03-23-2004 | 03:14 AM
  #40  
Nicole's Avatar
Nicole
Cottage Industry Sponsor
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 25,784
Likes: 150
From: Silly Valley, CA
Default


This one might explain why European trucks now have special skirts on the sides - so that cars or motorcyclists cannot get underneath the trailer and get rolled over.

Try implementing that idea in the US - I'm sure there would be all kinds of lobbyists putting the cost savings over the lives of potential accident victims. Unless, of course, it would be one of their loved ones...
Old 03-23-2004 | 03:18 AM
  #41  
Nicole's Avatar
Nicole
Cottage Industry Sponsor
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 25,784
Likes: 150
From: Silly Valley, CA
Default


Talk about tree huggers...
Old 03-23-2004 | 04:13 AM
  #42  
Ron_H's Avatar
Ron_H
Thread Starter
928 Barrister
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,772
Likes: 5
From: Sunnyvale, CA
Default skirts on trailers for safety

Oh, Nicole.....there you go again getting rational and sensible. Haven't you been warned about that?
Old 03-23-2004 | 07:29 AM
  #43  
hacker-pschorr's Avatar
hacker-pschorr
Administrator
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,629
Likes: 2,248
From: Up Nort
Default

Originally posted by Nicole
This one might explain why European trucks now have special skirts on the sides - so that cars or motorcyclists cannot get underneath the trailer and get rolled over.

Try implementing that idea in the US - I'm sure there would be all kinds of lobbyists putting the cost savings over the lives of potential accident victims. Unless, of course, it would be one of their loved ones...
Semi's have had protective skirts on the back of trailers for quite some time. I'm not sure about the side.
Old 03-23-2004 | 11:49 AM
  #44  
SharkSkin's Avatar
SharkSkin
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 12,620
Likes: 6
From: Boulder Creek, CA
Default

The skirts are for fuel efficiency.
Old 03-23-2004 | 11:54 AM
  #45  
ViribusUnits's Avatar
ViribusUnits
Nordschleife Master
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 9,010
Likes: 2
From: South Texas
Default

How are you going to get under a semi anyways? It's more difficult than it looks. Maybe if you ran a stop light, or he ran a stop light?

To be honest I've worked around then all my life and I can't rember any times in which a car got under the trailer at speed. I do know of a few times where the truck actualy ran OVER a car, but that was the truck and trailer and everything. Not much you can do about that, cept maybe duck.

I do know of some really awsome piles up were the truck was completely undammaged, the pick up that hit it totaled, and everybody walked away.

Also roll overs, jack knifes, and people being stupid at stop lights, and getting where the truck needs to be to turn, and then getting run over by the trailer because they were in the drivers blind spot. Thus the "This truck make wide right turns" sign, and the extra turn signal on the frount of the trailer.


Quick Reply: Impact force



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 11:15 PM.