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Old 03-08-2020, 11:46 AM
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I love the way this community incubates new products like this and I don’t even own an S4!
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Originally Posted by Kevin in Atlanta

This is my S4 belly pan complete with access panel to do oil changes without dropping the entire belly pan.
That’s freakin awesome!
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Old 03-08-2020, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by olmann
That’s freakin awesome!
Thanks. That is the prototype. The commercial product is even nicer.
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Old 03-08-2020, 12:48 PM
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Kevin in Atlanta - I'm interested in two of these, when are they ready for primetime?
Old 03-08-2020, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by slownrusty
Kevin in Atlanta - I'm interested in two of these, when are they ready for primetime?
Very soon. Kevin Wilson and I are working out the shipping details right now.
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Old 03-08-2020, 02:04 PM
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Nice product Kevin and Kevin!

Wish they were made years ago...
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Old 03-08-2020, 02:35 PM
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That's a perfect solution for those that already own the 928Intl version.

Old 03-09-2020, 04:16 PM
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Welcome (I guess). And good luck.

If you want to see what you are in for, Dwayne, of Dwayne's Garage has a wonderful write up on the Motor Mounts (MMs). Once you get it apart, the Oil Pan Gasket (OPG) is right there.
There's a link to Dwayne's site in the "New Visitor" sticky.

I will agree that this is not a good 'first dip' into the "Care and Feeding of a 928" pond.
But it's not all that hard.

You have to pretty much take apart the entire bottom of the front end of the car. Sway bar, steering rack, Lower Control Arms (LCA) and cross member have to come off. Alternator & power steering pump have to come off the front of the motor. The motor has to be supported from the top (Dwayne has a really good setup made from 4x4 beams for that). The pan is held on by approximately 1,357,924 bolts (really like 20, but it seems like a lot more). Some of them are 'challenging' to get to.

OTOH, none of it is terribly difficult, just involved and intimidating. There are a few potential pitfalls, getting the crossmember bolts back in is one, but Dwayne covers it well.
Getting the car up as high as possible is critical. Many of us use Ken's LiftBars. They make getting the car up & down a lot easier, and give an extra couple inches on the jackstands. A lift is best, but not everyone has one of those.

I will disagree with Ake about making your own pan gasket. That sort of thing is not for a beginner. Greg Brown makes & sells a very nice one. Far superior to the original cork, yet it isn't thick like the silicone one, so bolts can be properly tightened. He had a thread on it a month or so ago when he introduced it.



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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
It would have been nice if they made the belly pans with access holes to change the oil and filter

as it is an oil change on an S4 is a time consuming adventure not to mention all the different kinds of fasteners that are put back in
by creative mechanics
At this point removing the pans and leaving them off while you contemplating service needs will be prudent
just secure the front spoiler lower edge so it stays up otherwise you can catch it backing out of a driveway
It would also be cool to have a cutout under the engine support so you could jack up the car and get it on stands without the lift bars.
Old 03-10-2020, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 928sg
It would also be cool to have a cutout under the engine support so you could jack up the car and get it on stands without the lift bars.
That is doable Sterling.
Old 03-10-2020, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 928sg
It would also be cool to have a cutout under the engine support so you could jack up the car and get it on stands without the lift bars.
I’ve decided that I don’t understand this —^. To what problem is this a solution?
Old 03-10-2020, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin Joe
Welcome (I guess). And good luck.

If you want to see what you are in for, Dwayne, of Dwayne's Garage has a wonderful write up on the Motor Mounts (MMs). Once you get it apart, the Oil Pan Gasket (OPG) is right there.
There's a link to Dwayne's site in the "New Visitor" sticky.

I will agree that this is not a good 'first dip' into the "Care and Feeding of a 928" pond.
But it's not all that hard.

You have to pretty much take apart the entire bottom of the front end of the car. Sway bar, steering rack, Lower Control Arms (LCA) and cross member have to come off. Alternator & power steering pump have to come off the front of the motor. The motor has to be supported from the top (Dwayne has a really good setup made from 4x4 beams for that). The pan is held on by approximately 1,357,924 bolts (really like 20, but it seems like a lot more). Some of them are 'challenging' to get to.

OTOH, none of it is terribly difficult, just involved and intimidating. There are a few potential pitfalls, getting the crossmember bolts back in is one, but Dwayne covers it well.
Getting the car up as high as possible is critical. Many of us use Ken's LiftBars. They make getting the car up & down a lot easier, and give an extra couple inches on the jackstands. A lift is best, but not everyone has one of those.

I will disagree with Ake about making your own pan gasket. That sort of thing is not for a beginner. Greg Brown makes & sells a very nice one. Far superior to the original cork, yet it isn't thick like the silicone one, so bolts can be properly tightened. He had a thread on it a month or so ago when he introduced it.

Wisconsin Joe, when you have gone through all the cumbersome extensive work to be able to remove the oil pan, the manufacturing of your own oil pan gasket is the most
simplest thing to do but if you consider that Mr. Brown needs the business to earn some money selling a gasket I have nothing against that. We who live in the old world do not have a Mr. Brown to turn to so we have to manage on our own. To pay eighty dollars for shipping for a gasket that will arrive after more than two weeks and furthermore additional costs for customs duty and import sales tax does not make sense.
Åke
Old 03-10-2020, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by worf928
I’ve decided that I don’t understand this —^. To what problem is this a solution?
If the belly pan is installed you can't get a jack under the engine support and jack the car up. Which is by far the easiest way to get a 928 up on jack stands.
Old 03-10-2020, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 928sg
If the belly pan is installed you can't get a jack under the engine support and jack the car up. Which is by far the easiest way to get a 928 up on jack stands.
What is the engine support you refer to?


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