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Old 01-16-2020, 09:52 AM
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I have a weep leak on the power steering return hose from the rack. The hose is loose enough that it will turn where it is crimped to the hard pipe. If I replace just the hose and clamp it, it needs a fairly sharp turn to go back into the reservoir. Wondering about swapping to an old metal reservoir to eliminate the bend in the hose.
The complete assembly is unbelievably expensive.
Thoughts/advice?
This is on the 83 row with the plastic reservoir.
Old 01-16-2020, 11:42 AM
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If i understand your problem, just bend some hard line (of same ID as rubber hose) to the J shape then add straight rubber to connect to the reservoir...
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If you buy the supply hose (also moulded) from reservoir to pump and cut off one end, you end up with a piece with just the right 90 dog bend, and the correct but different IDs at each end to fit the hard line (use hose clamp) and reservoir nipple.

Supply hose isn’t expensive.
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The low pressure hose isn't critical like the high pressure one is. When putting mine back together this summer, I bought one from eBay and when it arrived, the rubber portion was all cracked and not at all as represented. I I didn't have time to wait for another and a new one had to come from Germany, so used reinforced hose from the local auto parts store and a clamp. No issues. For the high pressure hose, I installed a new one and fire-sleeved it for extra protection in case it ever burst. The fire sleeving not only helps protect the hose from the heat in that area from the exhaust manifold, but should it burst, directs the flammable fluid out the bottom down to the road instead if letting it spray all over the hot manifold to prevent a Car-B-Q.


Crappy hose that arrived from eBay

Location where I cut it with a tubing cutter

Repaired and ready for install - double clamped just in case


New fire-sleeved high-pressure hose visible in background behind repaired low-pressure hose. Upgraded Greg Brown Slave cylinder line running along bottom

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+1 on that fire sleeve. My most recent high pressure hose failure fortunately squirted towards the fender, where it would then splash around and drip onto the manifold, causing smoke but no fire (which reminds me, Roger, if you're reading this...I still have the failed hose I'm supposed to send you). I fire sleeved the replacement this time. With the last replacement lasting less than three (?) years, can't afford not to.
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Originally Posted by StratfordShark
If you buy the supply hose (also moulded) from reservoir to pump and cut off one end, you end up with a piece with just the right 90 dog bend, and the correct but different IDs at each end to fit the hard line (use hose clamp) and reservoir nipple.

Supply hose isn’t expensive.
are you talking about the early hose or the late model one?
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Originally Posted by Billu
are you talking about the early hose or the late model one?
Apologies - I had my S4 in mind and didn’t realise early hoses differed. Forget what I suggested!
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i bought new the pressure line ($$$) and looked at some hoses to try fix the return line. Didn't work , they are to big or to short to fix it in "1" piece.
So i fixed it with a silicone hose 10 mm , make a big turn , reducer 10 x 12 mm and short hose 12mm.
Should find a 12 mm hose with 90° bend , would make it nicer ….


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I personally bit the bullet and bought all 4 power steering lines from Porsche. Should be good for another 20 on the returns and 10 on the pressure line.

Not cheap, but worth it. Others have used fittings and blocks to get the different sizes needed for the hose with success as well.
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I used a couple of hydraulics adaptors /reducers to connect reservoir to return line, and accomplish the right angle and diameter change. Looks a little messy, but makes it easy to use standard hoses.
jp 83 Euro S AT 57k
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Originally Posted by StratfordShark
If you buy the supply hose (also moulded) from reservoir to pump and cut off one end, you end up with a piece with just the right 90 dog bend, and the correct but different IDs at each end to fit the hard line (use hose clamp) and reservoir nipple.

Supply hose isn’t expensive.
So, I talked to Roger, turns out the late version of the reservoir to pump hose works to replace the end of the return hose on the early or late cars. I have one on order and will report back after install.
Thanks for mentioning this.
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The factory hoses are quite pricey. What I did on my racer was send the old hoses to a local hydraulic shop who made new ones for much less than the cost of a single OEM hose...I want to say $150 for a whole set of 1979 hoses, also more heat resistant and rated to higher pressures
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Originally Posted by Billu
So, I talked to Roger, turns out the late version of the reservoir to pump hose works to replace the end of the return hose on the early or late cars. I have one on order and will report back after install.
Thanks for mentioning this.
@Billu Where did you end up on this solution?
Old 01-10-2021, 01:35 AM
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I used the late model return hose. I’ll try to get pictures tomorrow
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