Pasha pattered algorithm.
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Thank you Dr Who in SC and Nate!
"Stitching" together with the other two Pascha-related threads...
Pasche Pattern Formula
Official Pasha Thread
As a reference point, I used a Ratio = 0.61 which roughly approximates the Fibonacci sequence (and Golden Ratio) and found it created something similar to the more "squarish" (non-Porsche, I believe) pattern we sometimes see. (Also used a silver-looking background color):
"Stitching" together with the other two Pascha-related threads...
Pasche Pattern Formula
Official Pasha Thread
As a reference point, I used a Ratio = 0.61 which roughly approximates the Fibonacci sequence (and Golden Ratio) and found it created something similar to the more "squarish" (non-Porsche, I believe) pattern we sometimes see. (Also used a silver-looking background color):
#17
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Does anyone have the ability to turn this into a downloadable vector file or even better, a vector file for use in illustrator?
thanks for the info btw, never realized Pascha was a mathematical equation.
thanks for the info btw, never realized Pascha was a mathematical equation.
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Once again, the 928 user forum talent blows my mind!
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This is the one time I will advocate discrimination.
Pasha underwear will be fine, maybe even cute on normal human beings.
No fat people. Like me.
If I were to wear Pasha underwear...there would be mass hypnosis and/or hysteria.
Pasha underwear will be fine, maybe even cute on normal human beings.
No fat people. Like me.
If I were to wear Pasha underwear...there would be mass hypnosis and/or hysteria.
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It's easy enough to print/plot the output to a PDF, which is a vector file that should come right in to Illustrator. If you don't have Acrobat or Acrobat Pro, you can export the Excel output to Word, and use that to generate the PDF.
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cool stuff....but i have a question...is there anything related to restoration that you can do with the algorithm?
possibly print ink onto fabric? i don't know....just curious
possibly print ink onto fabric? i don't know....just curious
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Why this thread ended up with posts about female panties for men is beyond me, but if all of that could somehow be deleted it would make this thread one of the greatest I have seen.
The design of the Pasha pattern devised by Dr Who is just exactly what the pattern has always needed, even from the start of its application to the Geneva 928 show car. You will notice in the picture of Ferry Porsche sitting on the hood of that red 928 with the white leather and black/white Pasha, that the pasha pattern is off center in both of the front seats, and more so in the passenger's seat. I think that is because of the pattern itself in that they were trying to get the pattern to look centered at the outside edges primarily. With the pattern as originally obtained by Porsche (because I don't think Porsche designed it themselves) the outer large blocks end up opposite each other along the outer edge of the inserts. Whoever did the pattern tried to center the pattern at the common or four opposing blocks in the small block area and then end the pattern in the same manner with the large blocks. You may need to study the pattern a bit to be able to go along with this.
However, the only way to deal with this pasha pattern is to start in the center of the small blocks and have the center of the pattern be in fact in the center of one of the blocks. That is just what Dr Who has done with his algorithm. That puts the outer end of the pattern in the center of the large blocks rather than at the four corners of four large blocks, which can be accomplished only by putting an extra row of blocks on one side of the pattern, which the Porsche pasha pattern has. Putting the extra row of blocks on one side of the pattern necessitates changing the width of the block on the other side, and so forth.
This new pattern is JFB. It is just exactly what is needed with the pattern, and for more reasons than you might realize. Aside from making the progression of block size uniform, by eliminating the extra row of blocks, it puts the outer edge of the pattern, at the big blocks, symmetrical so that the end of each row is the same color rather then being an opposite color. That is what causes the pattern to look lopsided, and I think is why the original pattern in the Geneva show car is off center - they trying to get it to look centered with the outer ends of each row looking the same. Too, it looks like the width and length of the pattern can be adjusted and done so to fit the pattern to the 928 pillows or any other style of seat, so that perhaps the pattern will have the center of the small block in one pillow and the center of the large block in the next, and so forth.
Now what we need is to find some source to have this new corrected pattern put into production. Just about everyone needs a new source for their Pasha. material, even if they haven't figured that out yet.
The design of the Pasha pattern devised by Dr Who is just exactly what the pattern has always needed, even from the start of its application to the Geneva 928 show car. You will notice in the picture of Ferry Porsche sitting on the hood of that red 928 with the white leather and black/white Pasha, that the pasha pattern is off center in both of the front seats, and more so in the passenger's seat. I think that is because of the pattern itself in that they were trying to get the pattern to look centered at the outside edges primarily. With the pattern as originally obtained by Porsche (because I don't think Porsche designed it themselves) the outer large blocks end up opposite each other along the outer edge of the inserts. Whoever did the pattern tried to center the pattern at the common or four opposing blocks in the small block area and then end the pattern in the same manner with the large blocks. You may need to study the pattern a bit to be able to go along with this.
However, the only way to deal with this pasha pattern is to start in the center of the small blocks and have the center of the pattern be in fact in the center of one of the blocks. That is just what Dr Who has done with his algorithm. That puts the outer end of the pattern in the center of the large blocks rather than at the four corners of four large blocks, which can be accomplished only by putting an extra row of blocks on one side of the pattern, which the Porsche pasha pattern has. Putting the extra row of blocks on one side of the pattern necessitates changing the width of the block on the other side, and so forth.
This new pattern is JFB. It is just exactly what is needed with the pattern, and for more reasons than you might realize. Aside from making the progression of block size uniform, by eliminating the extra row of blocks, it puts the outer edge of the pattern, at the big blocks, symmetrical so that the end of each row is the same color rather then being an opposite color. That is what causes the pattern to look lopsided, and I think is why the original pattern in the Geneva show car is off center - they trying to get it to look centered with the outer ends of each row looking the same. Too, it looks like the width and length of the pattern can be adjusted and done so to fit the pattern to the 928 pillows or any other style of seat, so that perhaps the pattern will have the center of the small block in one pillow and the center of the large block in the next, and so forth.
Now what we need is to find some source to have this new corrected pattern put into production. Just about everyone needs a new source for their Pasha. material, even if they haven't figured that out yet.
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Wait a minute. Hold your horses. I have been studying this new pattern based on what I think is brilliant computer minded intelligence and find still that the pattern is JFB. However I have discovered what I consider a flaw or problem in the pattern in its application to something like the upholstery in some of our 928s. The pattern as drawn by these two guys is just brilliant in respect to the pattern, although I wonder if changing the reduction factor from .87 down a little to like .83 or .84 might tend to kind of round out the appearance of the pattern to more circular than still having a kind of squarish look to it, which I think it has, but not a big deal.
The problem I now see is in trying to use this very cleaned up pattern in our application. As I pointed out above, I am pretty sure that the reason that the pattern in the Geneva car show car that Ferry Porsche is sitting on in the picture is off center in both of the front seats is that they were trying to get the pattern to look more centered when they found that the ends of the rows, and particularly at the corners, were ending up in opposite colors. They moved the pattern to one side to make the corners look more alike, I am pretty sure, and that put the overall look of the pattern off center, as you can clearly see.
I had actually figured this all out in the other thread where I drew up by hand some various Pasha patterns of my own. To cure the problem, what is needed is a Pasha pattern that has the center of both the big blocks and the small blocks actually on an imaginary line in the center of the blocks rather than on a line in the pattern between the blocks. Simple as that. When that is done each row of blocks ends in the same color rather than an opposing color. When that has been done, even if by myself with the pencil, paper and markers, I am going to look into seeing where the correct pattern can be put into fabric. In the meantime I will invite the brilliant minds here to try to draw the pattern in their computer to match my suggestions.
The problem I now see is in trying to use this very cleaned up pattern in our application. As I pointed out above, I am pretty sure that the reason that the pattern in the Geneva car show car that Ferry Porsche is sitting on in the picture is off center in both of the front seats is that they were trying to get the pattern to look more centered when they found that the ends of the rows, and particularly at the corners, were ending up in opposite colors. They moved the pattern to one side to make the corners look more alike, I am pretty sure, and that put the overall look of the pattern off center, as you can clearly see.
I had actually figured this all out in the other thread where I drew up by hand some various Pasha patterns of my own. To cure the problem, what is needed is a Pasha pattern that has the center of both the big blocks and the small blocks actually on an imaginary line in the center of the blocks rather than on a line in the pattern between the blocks. Simple as that. When that is done each row of blocks ends in the same color rather than an opposing color. When that has been done, even if by myself with the pencil, paper and markers, I am going to look into seeing where the correct pattern can be put into fabric. In the meantime I will invite the brilliant minds here to try to draw the pattern in their computer to match my suggestions.