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Old 02-17-2019, 11:38 PM
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1989 s4, 125,000m
I just imported my car from California to Texas. It spent all of its life in Southern California, Oceanside then Mission Viejo. This car was very well maintained by two previous owners, and I have an inch-thick folder of records going back to purchase.
After paying import taxes (AKA transport fees) I put the car on the lift and started going through the car top-to-bottom, end-to-end. One of the easiest tasks was replacing the fuel filter.
The last fuel filter change was almost exactly seven years/10,000miles ago. Records from that tune up from European Motorsports in Vista, CA state: "**Note: Fuel filter was very dirty!"

Attached is a picture today of what came out of the fuel filter when I emptied it backwards. (The fuel coming out of the exit port of the filter looked fine.)
Also, when I changed spark plugs all of them looked great (other than being very worn), no indications of lean/rich or oil fouling. However, looking down into the CC with a flashlight it was very black. Very black.
Guess I will add sending off the injectors for cleaning to my to-do list.
Time for some good old 93 octane, ethanol free Texas gas. (Yes, there are still some stations that have real gas.)
And I guess I will add an injector cleaning to the to-do list!

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Looks like the filter did it's job. What's the issue?
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What's the maintenance history on the short rubber hose on the in-tank fuel pump?
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Nothing mentioned in records about changing/inspecting in-tank pump. (I have seen posts here showing that cracked rubber.) That will need to wait until my tank is not 3/4 full!
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How's that Ca gas ? Looks like old filter and standard junk
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Just poking fun at California! Since that is where the car has lived.
Yep, looks like what failed rubber inside of a gas tank would do to the filter.
Trust me, there are so many rubber components I've seen in fuel systems in older cars that never anticipated the fuels and lubricants that we are using today. Even Viton is showing susceptibility to alcohol according to some.
"Standard Junk"? Well...if that is coming out of my fuel filter every 10k miles, something is amiss!
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The 91 octane is a bane. It barely allows high compression cars to come out of retard. My C7 pings normally on the highway in high gear. I run a 1/4 of e85 to overcome and plan some form of e85 conversion for most cars.
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We just towed a 27' Airstream from Minnesota to California through Texas both ways. I was delighted to find and fill the tow vehicle with real gas instead of the corn syrup we got everywhere else, and saw our gas mileage jump 10-20%.
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While our gas may be $hit, at least it's very expensive and has high taxes on it.

The great part is that the taxes on gas, which are supposed to be used for repairing the roads, get used to feed, house, and support illegal immigrants.

Be sure to vote more liberals into office, whenever possible!
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD

Be sure to vote more liberals into office, whenever possible!
Greg, I'm afraid this is being done well enough without your urging more on us! Just please keep it in California.
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
While our gas may be $hit, at least it's very expensive and has high taxes on it.

The great part is that the taxes on gas, which are supposed to be used for repairing the roads, get used to feed, house, and support illegal immigrants.

Be sure to vote more liberals into office, whenever possible!
And please stop sending them to Texas!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
While our gas may be $hit, at least it's very expensive and has high taxes on it.

The great part is that the taxes on gas, which are supposed to be used for repairing the roads, get used to feed, house, and support illegal immigrants.

Be sure to vote more liberals into office, whenever possible!
Now Greg....

Cali has a long and distinguished history of illegally funneling road taxes into the "general fund", from which they are spent on a slew of social purposes. In spite of voter efforts to maintain their purpose, seems legislators just can't see how using them for the intended purposes is justified, when there are so many deserving social causes that can use them. Turns out that highways don't vote, and the average voter hasn't a clue that the money is diverted. Instead, they get suckered into paying for local highway and transportation bonds with even more local pump and sales taxes, so that the borrowed original funds won't have to be used for what they were originally collected. And everybody has a share in it one way or the other.

"Something should be done to help those poor [insert deserving class]!" For any particular [deserving class] there are example cases that tug at your heartstrings and your wallet. And as any more example cases that go just for the wallet, because they can. Costs of living skyrocket with the number of folks who make less than $150k, who need extra social support from everyone else.

We left the state for several reasons. Oregon offered us economic and political asylum, for which we are grateful. Other states made similar offers. Still, there's an incoming class of folks here that believe in the values here but want the same level of social support. Escaping what they consider bad but still wanting it the way they had it... Sing along, you all know the words!

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