Looking for a 928 Restoration Shop
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I have given up with this car but I am not ready to give up on the 928. Maybe for those of you who like th challenge of restoring these cars. We could come up with a mutual agreement. I would be willing to possibly trade + cash for a good running & looking 928.
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Not to put too fine a point on it Paul, but how much cash are you thinking? It's already been mentioned that you need to be a member to offer stuff for sale on this site, and you need to quote an asking price? Dem's da rules .
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I apologize, I thought being able to post messages meant I was a member. I am obviously mistaken. What does it take to be a member of this site. I will officially withdraw my offer. So that I can stay in compliance.
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Paul - there's a membership page, I think it's $17/year. But mostly you need to post an asking price? There's a Member Marketplace page where you post this stuff with instructions, you can also cross post to other relevant forums.
Welcome to the club !
Welcome to the club !
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Top bar, "Forums Gallery Tools Marketplace Membership New Posts How-Tos"
Follow "membership". Costs a few bucks a year, gets you access to a few forums and ads that 'users' can't see, lets you post 'for sale' and "want to buy" posts.
Hacker-Pschorr is the moderator on this forum, he's usually pretty reasonable about this sort of stuff. Since you didn't originally post this as a 'for sale' ad thread, he may well let it slide unless someone complains.
I'm still rather curious as to how you ended up with the car.
Care to share the tale?
Lots of folks 'fell into' cars, not really realizing what they were getting into.
Some ended up keeping the car and restoring it over time, some ended up dumping a lot of money into it, some walked away.
Best of luck, whatever you choose.
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I sort of jumped into the 928 game without doing proper research. I was lined up to purchase a 944 but just before going to purchase the car Hurricane Micheal stuck and the car was destroyed. I was told that the 944 was a good car to work on so I figured the 928 would be as well. WRONG! Acually at this point I have a gentleman who is looking to possibly purchase it as a father/son project. If that falls through I might look for a trade 944 for the 928.
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Well, I have both a 944 & 928. I wouldn't say one is easier or harder to work on.
Both have their good & bad points. Both have strengths and weaknesses, Both have pretty decent communities for advice & assistance. On here & elsewhere. Both will give you heart attacks when you find out what parts cost. Both have reasonably decent used part availability and a few "MacGuyver fixes" here & there.
OTOH, the 928 was both the Porsche flagship (944 was 'entry level') and one of the most advanced cars of its time. However, any modern car is leaps & bounds ahead of it in complexity.
The 928 can be 'electrically challenging', but a good understanding of basic electrical principles and wiring will take care of most of what you need (figure high school shop class electrical). There isn't much electronics, and nothing is integrated.
Good luck with the hunt for the right car for you. If that turns out to be a 944, say "Hi" over on that board. Make sure you point whoever ends up with your 928 in this direction.
You got a bit of a 'less than warm' welcome here mostly because the idea of restoring any car (let alone a 928) on the budget you stated is unrealistic.
We get 'more than a few' folks who show up on here with totally unrealistic expectations of what their car can be as far as value, performance, cost of ownership, required effort, all that. They can get a bit 'snippy' when they find out that their 'classic Porsche' isn't worth a lot of money, will take a lot of money to get 'nice', won't win a stoplight drag against a new Camry, needs to have a fair amount of preventative work done on a regular basis, ect.
Both have their good & bad points. Both have strengths and weaknesses, Both have pretty decent communities for advice & assistance. On here & elsewhere. Both will give you heart attacks when you find out what parts cost. Both have reasonably decent used part availability and a few "MacGuyver fixes" here & there.
OTOH, the 928 was both the Porsche flagship (944 was 'entry level') and one of the most advanced cars of its time. However, any modern car is leaps & bounds ahead of it in complexity.
The 928 can be 'electrically challenging', but a good understanding of basic electrical principles and wiring will take care of most of what you need (figure high school shop class electrical). There isn't much electronics, and nothing is integrated.
Good luck with the hunt for the right car for you. If that turns out to be a 944, say "Hi" over on that board. Make sure you point whoever ends up with your 928 in this direction.
You got a bit of a 'less than warm' welcome here mostly because the idea of restoring any car (let alone a 928) on the budget you stated is unrealistic.
We get 'more than a few' folks who show up on here with totally unrealistic expectations of what their car can be as far as value, performance, cost of ownership, required effort, all that. They can get a bit 'snippy' when they find out that their 'classic Porsche' isn't worth a lot of money, will take a lot of money to get 'nice', won't win a stoplight drag against a new Camry, needs to have a fair amount of preventative work done on a regular basis, ect.
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For me the trick is to take baby steps, fix the worst things first, try not to break things. Restoring a 928 can be a fun, and not too expensive hobby. So, if you follow this path, you are probably looking at:
$0 to $1000 to fix your electrical issue
$100 to $300 to have someone inspect and replace fuel lines as necessary
$150 to service the trans
$300 for a used passenger seat
$50 for a dash mat
$200 for an econo tune up
So, somewhere in the range of $1000 to $2000. Does not give you a showroom floor restoration at all, but an awesome toy you can drive and enjoy and continue to improve.
$0 to $1000 to fix your electrical issue
$100 to $300 to have someone inspect and replace fuel lines as necessary
$150 to service the trans
$300 for a used passenger seat
$50 for a dash mat
$200 for an econo tune up
So, somewhere in the range of $1000 to $2000. Does not give you a showroom floor restoration at all, but an awesome toy you can drive and enjoy and continue to improve.
I sort of jumped into the 928 game without doing proper research. I was lined up to purchase a 944 but just before going to purchase the car Hurricane Micheal stuck and the car was destroyed. I was told that the 944 was a good car to work on so I figured the 928 would be as well. WRONG!
However, if you wanted a sportscar, then the 944 is what you want. The 928 is a GT car. Like Joe, I've owned both. I've moved on from the 944 (into a Boxster), but I've still got and intend to keep a 928.
Yours is already gorgeous, and a standout color.
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I think you'll find that unless you're willing to wait for an un-bespoke 928 currently in restoration, you likely won't find a better car than the one you have for a refresh. Like Speed says, your car doesn't look like it's in need of a restoration, just some positive attention in some areas. If you are looking for a well prepared 928 in good to very good condition, you're likely looking for something in the $20,000 to $30,000 range. You can do a lot of good for that car with $20,000. If you like the color you should probably keep it.
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I think you'll find that unless you're willing to wait for an un-bespoke 928 currently in restoration, you likely won't find a better car than the one you have for a refresh. Like Speed says, your car doesn't look like it's in need of a restoration, just some positive attention in some areas. If you are looking for a well prepared 928 in good to very good condition, you're likely looking for something in the $20,000 to $30,000 range. You can do a lot of good for that car with $20,000. If you like the color you should probably keep it.
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I run an exclusive 928 shop in Southern California.
We are certainly doing complete restorations on 928's on a daily basis, these days. We do not do the actual painting or upholstery work, in house, but we have highly skilled people that we sublet this work to. We do not, as suggested above, mark up the cost of the paint or the interior work. We encourage people to pay for this work directly. We do charge to disassemble and re-assemble (see below.)
To make sure things are perfectly put back together with the correct hardware in the correct location, we do our own disassembly and reassembly of both the body and the interior. This gives us the chance to clean or replace any of the ansilary pieces or rubber.
As far as the mechanicals/electricals of the car are concerned, since that is virtually all we've done for the past 15 years, you would be hard pressed to find another shop with our levels of skill. When it's all you do, day after day, year after yesr, you get pretty good at it!
We are certainly doing complete restorations on 928's on a daily basis, these days. We do not do the actual painting or upholstery work, in house, but we have highly skilled people that we sublet this work to. We do not, as suggested above, mark up the cost of the paint or the interior work. We encourage people to pay for this work directly. We do charge to disassemble and re-assemble (see below.)
To make sure things are perfectly put back together with the correct hardware in the correct location, we do our own disassembly and reassembly of both the body and the interior. This gives us the chance to clean or replace any of the ansilary pieces or rubber.
As far as the mechanicals/electricals of the car are concerned, since that is virtually all we've done for the past 15 years, you would be hard pressed to find another shop with our levels of skill. When it's all you do, day after day, year after yesr, you get pretty good at it!
Would like to talk to you. I own a 1982 that needs to be restored. I live in Carlsbad.
robin.vds180@gmail.com
Thank you
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Hi there
Would like to talk to you. I own a 1982 that needs to be restored. I live in Carlsbad.
robin.vds180@gmail.com
Thank you
Would like to talk to you. I own a 1982 that needs to be restored. I live in Carlsbad.
robin.vds180@gmail.com
Thank you
Trying to text about a restoration isn't pracitcal...way too much to type.
Here's the best way to start:
Email me some pictures of your car, so I can get a rough idea of what we have to work with. Include as much history as you are aware of (mostly interested in any past collision damage.) Mechanical condition is somewhat moot, since everything gets redone in any restoration we would do.
Include what your goals are...Driver or concours winner? Original color and interior or something different? Completely stock original or modern "restorod"...or something in between?
I'll review and then we can intelligently talk.
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