Notices
928 Forum
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

R12 Refrigerant Availability

 
Old 06-11-2018, 04:29 PM
  #16  
Taguid
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Taguid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Gonzales, LA
Posts: 336
Default

Originally Posted by WyattsRide View Post
Tracy,
I'm not disputing your intentions to help a Rennlister. Nor am I undermining or criticizing what you want per can. That agreement is up to Bertrand and yourself. I just thought the mailing of the cans, of what the PO or EPA considers "Hazardous Material" is more complicated. Maybe it isn't.
Yes, I understand there may be more to it. I definitely wouldn't want to do anything unlawful but I read somewhere that it could be purchased by an individual as long as the person filling the system is licensed to do so.
Taguid is offline  
Old 06-11-2018, 06:34 PM
  #17  
928S MN
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
928S MN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Lakeville, Minnesota
Posts: 330
Default

Originally Posted by GT6ixer View Post
Interesting.Here is the EPA wording from Red Tek's FAQ page (assuming they copied it correctly)

"Does RED TEK® 12a™ need EPA approval? A. RED TEK® 12a™ is a second generation, non-ozone depleting replacement for R-134a and all other non-ozone depleting R-12 substitutes. The EPA's Final Rule, issued April 1, 1994, states: "In this final rule, the Agency has determined that second generation replacements, if they are non-ozone depleting and are replacing non-ozone depleting first generation alternatives, are exempt from reporting requirements under Section 612".

So what if you have a leak in your AC system and all of the R12 has already been vented into the atmosphere? Now you go and get the AC leak repaired. Can you then refill it with R12A? In this case you are technically not "replacing" anything.
If your AC system is completely depleted, swap the R12 fittings to those necessary for 134a with a retrofit kit, then good to go.
928S MN is offline  
Old 06-11-2018, 07:53 PM
  #18  
19psi
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
19psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: NW Indiana
Posts: 801
Default

Have you checked craigslist or your local facebook market place? Average price in my area is $25 a can and I can literally buy it all day long. When I see someone selling at $15 or less for 14oz cans, I pick it up for the heck of it. Bought 3 cans for $45 about 2 weeks ago.

The demand is so low and price so cheap, there's no point in all the labor and expense of doing a PROPER 134a conversion or paying the same amount for r-12 alternatives.
19psi is online now  
Old 06-12-2018, 12:18 PM
  #19  
GeorgeM
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
GeorgeM's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 1,026
Default

The "best price" deal on CL in my area is $400 for a 30lb tank. It's not too hard to find these... just requires a little patience.
GeorgeM is offline  
Old 06-12-2018, 12:22 PM
  #20  
Bertrand Daoust
Addict
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Bertrand Daoust's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Gatineau, Québec, Canada
Posts: 4,162
Default

All set.

Thank guys.
Bertrand Daoust is offline  
Old 06-12-2018, 12:33 PM
  #21  
Adamant1971
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Adamant1971's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,547
Default

Bertrand,

I just found a local guy selling one 18lb and one 30lb. I'm probably going to pick up the 18lb for my self. Let me know if you want to stock up.

Adam
Adamant1971 is offline  
Old 06-12-2018, 12:44 PM
  #22  
Bertrand Daoust
Addict
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Bertrand Daoust's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Gatineau, Québec, Canada
Posts: 4,162
Default

Thanks Adam but I'm all set... For now.

I found few small cans so should be good for a (little) while.
Bertrand Daoust is offline  
Old 06-12-2018, 12:51 PM
  #23  
Adamant1971
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Adamant1971's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,547
Default

Originally Posted by Bertrand Daoust View Post
Thanks Adam but I'm all set... For now.

I found few small cans so should be good for a (little) while.
Cool
Adamant1971 is offline  
Old 06-12-2018, 01:06 PM
  #24  
Petza914
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Petza914's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Clemson, SC
Posts: 10,644
Default

R12 is more efficient than the alternatives so if you can preserve using that in your car, you should. I found a 30 lb canister on Craigslist that I picked up a couple years ago for a few hundred dollars and only my 928 uses it so should be good for life or pretty close to it.
Petza914 is offline  
Old 06-12-2018, 03:13 PM
  #25  
ROG100
Addict
Rennlist Member


Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
ROG100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Double Oak, TX
Posts: 15,661
Default

We stock and sell R12.
__________________


Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission? George Layton March 2014

928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
ROG100 is offline  
Old 06-12-2018, 10:12 PM
  #26  
GT6ixer
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
GT6ixer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Seattle. WA
Posts: 2,910
Default

^ Well how 'bout that. Roger you are like the Amazon or hard to find car stuff.
GT6ixer is offline  
Old 06-13-2018, 01:54 PM
  #27  
KenRudd
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
KenRudd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Apex, NC
Posts: 2,066
Default

Originally Posted by ROG100 View Post
We stock and sell R12.
I did not know that.
<filed away for future use>
KenRudd is offline  
Old 06-13-2018, 02:19 PM
  #28  
ROG100
Addict
Rennlist Member


Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
ROG100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Double Oak, TX
Posts: 15,661
Default

If it is on a 928 and available we sell it 8>)
__________________


Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission? George Layton March 2014

928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
ROG100 is offline  
Old 06-13-2018, 06:04 PM
  #29  
CraigL
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
CraigL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: St Louis, MO
Posts: 181
Default

Check Craig's List. There are many small cans for sale.
And one 30lb sealed can: (https://stlouis.craigslist.org/mat/d...601158301.html)
This one is pricey. Two years ago I purchased 30lbs for $100. Timing is everything.
CraigL is offline  
Old 02-23-2019, 02:42 PM
  #30  
islaTurbine
User
 
islaTurbine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: The ATL
Posts: 1,191
Default

Originally Posted by 19psi View Post
Have you checked craigslist or your local facebook market place? Average price in my area is $25 a can and I can literally buy it all day long. When I see someone selling at $15 or less for 14oz cans, I pick it up for the heck of it. Bought 3 cans for $45 about 2 weeks ago.

The demand is so low and price so cheap, there's no point in all the labor and expense of doing a PROPER 134a conversion or paying the same amount for r-12 alternatives.
This.

Stan pointed me in this direction via PM. I just sourced three 12oz bottles this week from a guy who lives about 5 minutes away. $75 for the three.
islaTurbine is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: R12 Refrigerant Availability


Contact Us - About Us - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: