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I have just drained the nasty fuel out of the tank, removed the lower fuel pump, and as described by the PO, it wouldn't run with current. The tank strap is horribly rusted, which suggests to me that the captured fuel hose may have had a leak. I did start the car briefly (3-4 seconds) with starting fluid in the barn before purchasing. I will look at replacing the fuel lines, all hydraulic lines too. The PO told me the timing belt is new! I said new in 1990! That isn't new. Luckily this year is a non interference, so the timing belt will be addressed after i see what the rest of the mechanical condition is.
I do have all of the trim, light bezels, wipers etc in a pile in the back of the car. PO removed a lot of the interior and exterior trim to repaint and retrim (don't think he liked the pasha)... thankfully the Pasha is still in really good shape, just needs some cleaning. The car is wearing all of its original paint except for the bumpers, which I assume is common. The paint is in good shape, but could use some touchup. Underside is spotless except for a rust hole in the side of the battery box. I only have 1 key for the car, works the ignition and hatch but not the doors. Was there only 1 key for these? The Pirelli P7s on the rear do look like originals, and they aren't exhibiting any dry rot, but I'm sure they need replacing. Too bad because they are so cool looking. PO told me the transaxle "made a little noise" which has me concerned so I will have to see about that. I have bought many cars from him out of the same barn, and everything he told me about those was true...
I love the color on this car, the interior is uber cool, and the lack of a sunroof is a bonus to me. 1st year is the purest design expression for these too, which appeals to me, so I'd like to keep it as original as possible.
I do have all of the trim, light bezels, wipers etc in a pile in the back of the car. PO removed a lot of the interior and exterior trim to repaint and retrim (don't think he liked the pasha)... thankfully the Pasha is still in really good shape, just needs some cleaning. The car is wearing all of its original paint except for the bumpers, which I assume is common. The paint is in good shape, but could use some touchup. Underside is spotless except for a rust hole in the side of the battery box. I only have 1 key for the car, works the ignition and hatch but not the doors. Was there only 1 key for these? The Pirelli P7s on the rear do look like originals, and they aren't exhibiting any dry rot, but I'm sure they need replacing. Too bad because they are so cool looking. PO told me the transaxle "made a little noise" which has me concerned so I will have to see about that. I have bought many cars from him out of the same barn, and everything he told me about those was true...
I love the color on this car, the interior is uber cool, and the lack of a sunroof is a bonus to me. 1st year is the purest design expression for these too, which appeals to me, so I'd like to keep it as original as possible.
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Welcome and love your new to you 78. You will need to remove your fuel tanks to replace those straps. Dwayne has it covered along with many more great write ups: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...one-place.html One key should open everything. You can have door locks rekeyed to match along with other used parts: http://www.928intl.com Take a close up pic of your key and e-mail to Keys4Classics. New key will be mailed to you: http://www.keys4classics.com Carpet/interior stuff: http://www.classic9leathershop.com/9...-928gt-928gts/ Purchase new tires and do store the original P7's. As stated above^^replace those old fuel and high pressure power steering lines with Greg Browns. Purchase all new parts from Roger at:http://www.928srus.com Best to call and set up accounts 77tony
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Welcome and love your new to you 78. You will need to remove your fuel tanks to replace those straps. Dwayne has it covered along with many more great write ups: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...one-place.html One key should open everything. You can have door locks rekeyed to match along with other used parts: http://www.928intl.com Take a close up pic of your key and e-mail to Keys4Classics. New key will be mailed to you: http://www.keys4classics.com Carpet/interior stuff: http://www.classic9leathershop.com/9...-928gt-928gts/ Purchase new tires and do store the original P7's. As stated above^^replace those old fuel and high pressure power steering lines with Greg Browns. Purchase all new parts from Roger at:http://www.928srus.com Best to call and set up an accounts. T
This was the second to last car in the barn. The others were all Alfa Romeos. '64 2600 spider, '66 Giulia GT, '63 Giulietta spider, and 3 Alfettas. 1 Alfetta GT is all there is left. I don't have any of the Alfas anymore, and kicking myself for not keeping the 2600 as they have skyrocketed in value and I bought it ridiculously cheap from the guy with the barn's ex-wife who had no idea of the value. She had no place to keep it , so kept it in her ex husbands barn. He hated her, so never told her what it was worth. I was the winner of that whole deal, but had I kept the car for 3 or 4 years, it would be worth double.
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Now that's a cool barn!
My '84 also sat for a long time and had varnished fuel. Follow Dwayne's garage guide for removing the tank posted by Tony above.
Once it is out and all the old fuel drained and pumps, filter, fuel sender, etc removed, you can clean it with water and laundry detergent. Run a spare piece of hose from the bottom fuel strainer outlet back to the top of the filler other wise all the soap will just run out of the bottom. Let it sit over night and then drain. Now take a power sprayer preferably or your hose and spray the inside to dislodge all of the old gas sludge. Now repeat this process as many times as needed to get the tank completey clean. I took me 7 cycles to get it all out.
Inspect your fuel sender once you get it out. Now will be the time to replace it. If it is anything like mine it will be toast
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...l#post13483935
Good luck!
My '84 also sat for a long time and had varnished fuel. Follow Dwayne's garage guide for removing the tank posted by Tony above.
Once it is out and all the old fuel drained and pumps, filter, fuel sender, etc removed, you can clean it with water and laundry detergent. Run a spare piece of hose from the bottom fuel strainer outlet back to the top of the filler other wise all the soap will just run out of the bottom. Let it sit over night and then drain. Now take a power sprayer preferably or your hose and spray the inside to dislodge all of the old gas sludge. Now repeat this process as many times as needed to get the tank completey clean. I took me 7 cycles to get it all out.
Inspect your fuel sender once you get it out. Now will be the time to replace it. If it is anything like mine it will be toast
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...l#post13483935
Good luck!
Last edited by GT6ixer; 08-20-2017 at 03:39 PM.
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Love all the links and advice guys. THANKS a ton. This car will challenge me I'm sure, need all the help I can get.
This was the second to last car in the barn. The others were all Alfa Romeos. '64 2600 spider, '66 Giulia GT, '63 Giulietta spider, and 3 Alfettas. 1 Alfetta GT is all there is left. I don't have any of the Alfas anymore, and kicking myself for not keeping the 2600 as they have skyrocketed in value and I bought it ridiculously cheap from the guy with the barn's ex-wife who had no idea of the value. She had no place to keep it , so kept it in her ex husbands barn. He hated her, so never told her what it was worth. I was the winner of that whole deal, but had I kept the car for 3 or 4 years, it would be worth double.
This was the second to last car in the barn. The others were all Alfa Romeos. '64 2600 spider, '66 Giulia GT, '63 Giulietta spider, and 3 Alfettas. 1 Alfetta GT is all there is left. I don't have any of the Alfas anymore, and kicking myself for not keeping the 2600 as they have skyrocketed in value and I bought it ridiculously cheap from the guy with the barn's ex-wife who had no idea of the value. She had no place to keep it , so kept it in her ex husbands barn. He hated her, so never told her what it was worth. I was the winner of that whole deal, but had I kept the car for 3 or 4 years, it would be worth double.
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Welcome to the forum and congrats on the new ride! To help you get familiar with the car and in case you're going to be working on it yourself; I'm attaching a link to our site's DIY tech articles on the 928 platform. Please let us know if you have any questions!
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Great purchase and Congratulations!
I am up in Harbor Springs and have contacts for help with your early 928. Would be happy to connect you with a friend that can handle the fuel distributor and other issues you will be certain to run into given the long storage.
The reason everyone is telling you to replace the fuel lines is the threat of FIRE! Get a few fire extinguishers and keep them strategically located in your work area! You would not be the first 928 owner to loose his shark to a serious grilling.
Another not so subtle hint... We would all love to see some pictures of the pasha!
Enjoy your project!
Dave
I am up in Harbor Springs and have contacts for help with your early 928. Would be happy to connect you with a friend that can handle the fuel distributor and other issues you will be certain to run into given the long storage.
The reason everyone is telling you to replace the fuel lines is the threat of FIRE! Get a few fire extinguishers and keep them strategically located in your work area! You would not be the first 928 owner to loose his shark to a serious grilling.
Another not so subtle hint... We would all love to see some pictures of the pasha!
Enjoy your project!
Dave
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+1 on the aluminum ball joints! About 17 years ago, I had one snap on me as I was gently pulling into a parking spot at work, collapsing the right front suspension and jamming the wheel up into the inner fender. It was a major PITA, but it could have been much worse because minutes earlier I was BURNING up the freeway (and I mean burning!) in SoCal. I had been meaning to get around to doing that, but the experience made me a believer in ball joint replacement being the top priority on any older 928.
Beautiful car! I'm a converted fan of the earliest OBs, and love to know there are a few more out there that can be "discovered". Be sure no to hoard all the good parts, because I'm still not finished with mine! :P
More photos are required*
Beautiful car! I'm a converted fan of the earliest OBs, and love to know there are a few more out there that can be "discovered". Be sure no to hoard all the good parts, because I'm still not finished with mine! :P
More photos are required*
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+1 on the aluminum ball joints! About 17 years ago, I had one snap on me as I was gently pulling into a parking spot at work, collapsing the right front suspension and jamming the wheel up into the inner fender. It was a major PITA, but it could have been much worse because minutes earlier I was BURNING up the freeway (and I mean burning!) in SoCal. I had been meaning to get around to doing that, but the experience made me a believer in ball joint replacement being the top priority on any older 928.
Beautiful car! I'm a converted fan of the earliest OBs, and love to know there are a few more out there that can be "discovered". Be sure no to hoard all the good parts, because I'm still not finished with mine! :P
More photos are required*
Beautiful car! I'm a converted fan of the earliest OBs, and love to know there are a few more out there that can be "discovered". Be sure no to hoard all the good parts, because I'm still not finished with mine! :P
More photos are required*
Will post some more pics soon, the interior isn't much to look at right now, the interior was largely disassembled when I bought the car. I started re - installing the door panels, and thought maybe I should check the power windows first. Turns out neither power window moves in either direction. I tried 12 volts directly to the passenger side motor, and nothing happened. Electrical work is not my strong suit, but it's looking like I may need new window motors. Will continue to troubleshoot. The seats and all the other interior parts seem to be in great shape, just need lots of cleaning. I decided today to focus on the mechanical stuff first, so will be doing hydraulics and fuel lines for the next couple of weeks.
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Congratulations, my first (and last?) Porsche was also my 78 928 Keep us posted on progress, so that others with similar problems or questions can learn. The level of knowledge from all corners of the world on this forum is all inspiring.