968 Engine parts on PCA Classifieds
07-11-2017, 11:57 PM
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968 Engine parts on PCA Classifieds
I saw a posting today on PCA Classifieds for 968 blocks, heads, and a crank.
https://www.pca.org/node/322704
It's tempting, but I'm going to rebuild my 2.5L into a 2.85L instead.
https://www.pca.org/node/322704
It's tempting, but I'm going to rebuild my 2.5L into a 2.85L instead.
07-12-2017, 03:01 AM
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Spencer,
Wisconsin. The guy says he has 968 heads, blocks, a crank, and miscellany, no price. PM me if you need more from the ad.
Wisconsin. The guy says he has 968 heads, blocks, a crank, and miscellany, no price. PM me if you need more from the ad.
07-12-2017, 05:42 PM
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Braymond, you're going to build a hybrid stroker? I just rebuilt my 2.5 and I'm tempted to build another one, bigger this time, and hybrid strokers seem like the way to go these days. I can't get over the fact that the 3.0L blocks are designed better though (joined cylinders and raised coolant floor).
07-12-2017, 10:19 PM
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Braymond, you're going to build a hybrid stroker? I just rebuilt my 2.5 and I'm tempted to build another one, bigger this time, and hybrid strokers seem like the way to go these days. I can't get over the fact that the 3.0L blocks are designed better though (joined cylinders and raised coolant floor).
Starting with a 3.0L block and crank will add at least $2K to my budget right from the start. That's half my budget with no mods. I'm committed (unless someone can talk me out of it
) to go with iron inserts as this will allow many more piston options and reduce the cost and complexity of coatings.If I'm having machine work done regardless of the block I start with, then spending another $2K for these parts just blows my budget.
I've read the success stories of others that have started with the 2.85L hybrid and I feel that is enough for me.
07-12-2017, 10:24 PM
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I'm also planning to stay NA and somewhere between 10.5-11.0 CR. If I decide to add a turbo or supercharger later, the only internal changes required will be pistons and again, I'll have lots of options.
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07-14-2017, 05:18 AM
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8v or 16v?
I totally get the allure, because I wanted to build a big NA motor myself once. But at the end of the day, you just can't beat a used 968 engine if you're talking about budget and back-for-the-buck. And TBH you'll be hard pressed to beat 236hp (or more if the 968 engine is modded) with a 2.85L NA unless you're talking ITBs or something.
I totally get the allure, because I wanted to build a big NA motor myself once. But at the end of the day, you just can't beat a used 968 engine if you're talking about budget and back-for-the-buck. And TBH you'll be hard pressed to beat 236hp (or more if the 968 engine is modded) with a 2.85L NA unless you're talking ITBs or something.
07-14-2017, 03:01 PM
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I have a 1988 944S with the 16v engine.
I don't disagree with you on the 968 engine being a great drop-in performance upgrade, but I do disagree about it being a significant savings over rebuilding my existing engine.
I see 968 engines selling for estimated $2500 used but complete. These are 100K mileage engines that will in the best-case scenario need only minor maintenance (water pump, timing belts, and new seals, hoses, etc.) during the re-install. That's a minimum of $3K - best case and I be gambling to just assume that's all it needs.
It's very likely to also need some refreshing - valve guides, seats, head gasket, maybe rod bearings. I'd be silly not to check because these are all unknowns until I pull it apart and check everything out. At this point, I'm rebuilding anyway.
You're right. Starting a rebuild with a 968 engine is better than starting with my 944S engine, but it puts me at least $2500 behind in my budget on day one.
There's some real value (to me anyway) to the experience, enjoyment, and satisfaction I will get from rebuilding my own engine too. I am really looking forward to this build.
My plan is to rebuild the long block first - refresh head, bore and sleeve the block, stroke the crank, etc. Then add a new ECM and slowly add power - new headers, cams, S2 intake or ITBs, etc. I will add a few new toys under the hood each year. I have some work to do on upgrading suspension and trans too. It's a hobby and I don't want it to be "finished."
I don't disagree with you on the 968 engine being a great drop-in performance upgrade, but I do disagree about it being a significant savings over rebuilding my existing engine.
I see 968 engines selling for estimated $2500 used but complete. These are 100K mileage engines that will in the best-case scenario need only minor maintenance (water pump, timing belts, and new seals, hoses, etc.) during the re-install. That's a minimum of $3K - best case and I be gambling to just assume that's all it needs.
It's very likely to also need some refreshing - valve guides, seats, head gasket, maybe rod bearings. I'd be silly not to check because these are all unknowns until I pull it apart and check everything out. At this point, I'm rebuilding anyway.
You're right. Starting a rebuild with a 968 engine is better than starting with my 944S engine, but it puts me at least $2500 behind in my budget on day one.
There's some real value (to me anyway) to the experience, enjoyment, and satisfaction I will get from rebuilding my own engine too. I am really looking forward to this build.
My plan is to rebuild the long block first - refresh head, bore and sleeve the block, stroke the crank, etc. Then add a new ECM and slowly add power - new headers, cams, S2 intake or ITBs, etc. I will add a few new toys under the hood each year. I have some work to do on upgrading suspension and trans too. It's a hobby and I don't want it to be "finished."
07-14-2017, 07:43 PM
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No doubt that $2500 is an optimistic price. I did see a 968 long block on Facebook just last week for $2900. I think is was someone in Jacksonville, FL area. I checked today and it's gone. I've seen them as high as $4K on eBay.
07-15-2017, 01:06 AM
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Okay, I found it. It's a 968 long block for $2400 on FB.
It's not a bad deal, but I would not just swap this in without at least pulling the head first and there might be another $1K to spend in sourcing the rest of it.
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It's not a bad deal, but I would not just swap this in without at least pulling the head first and there might be another $1K to spend in sourcing the rest of it.
Tempting