I suspected as much...
05-26-2017 | 08:43 AM
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I suspected as much...
You've seen it posted in Porsche ads, you've read it here but, is it still true that over 70 percent of all Porsche cars built are still on the road?
I was visiting porsche.com yesterday and, as usual, the above claim popped up somewhere in the layers on the way to the 924s parts catalogue. But just after clicking the 924s icon the view of their world was different. That 70 percent? It's no longer the case: "The fascination of Porsche is timeless. How can you tell? Because more than two thirds of all the Porsche vehicles ever built are still on the road today."
Then again, there are lies, damned lies and statistics.
I was visiting porsche.com yesterday and, as usual, the above claim popped up somewhere in the layers on the way to the 924s parts catalogue. But just after clicking the 924s icon the view of their world was different. That 70 percent? It's no longer the case: "The fascination of Porsche is timeless. How can you tell? Because more than two thirds of all the Porsche vehicles ever built are still on the road today."
Then again, there are lies, damned lies and statistics.
05-26-2017 | 09:44 AM
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While I've seen no one do an extensive study, I'd likely say that's true for the 911. I'm betting that's not so much true for our cars. Maybe the 968. Jeff would likely have the best idea on those.
How many have we seen people crush or junk just on here? And we're the ones who SAVE THEM!!! But that being said, I do think they have a bigger percentage than most cars enjoy, outside the Italian brands, and a handful of others. A lot of that goes down to how hard these are to really kill. About the only true death sentence is spinning a bearing and throwing a rod.
But then there are lots of spare engines out there, so that's not even a true death row event. But the fact there ARE so many spare engines speaks to many deaths. For our cars I've always guessed around 50%? If you remove the track only cars, I'd say "on the road" is much lower.
But I could be way off. It's just my feeling on the matter, I have no "proof". The PCA might have some good solid numbers, but since PCA members are more likely to cherish their cars is hard to say...
How many have we seen people crush or junk just on here? And we're the ones who SAVE THEM!!! But that being said, I do think they have a bigger percentage than most cars enjoy, outside the Italian brands, and a handful of others. A lot of that goes down to how hard these are to really kill. About the only true death sentence is spinning a bearing and throwing a rod.
But then there are lots of spare engines out there, so that's not even a true death row event. But the fact there ARE so many spare engines speaks to many deaths. For our cars I've always guessed around 50%? If you remove the track only cars, I'd say "on the road" is much lower.
But I could be way off. It's just my feeling on the matter, I have no "proof". The PCA might have some good solid numbers, but since PCA members are more likely to cherish their cars is hard to say...
05-26-2017 | 09:55 AM
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While I've seen no one do an extensive study, I'd likely say that's true for the 911. I'm betting that's not so much true for our cars. Maybe the 968.
The PCA might have some good solid numbers, but since PCA members are more likely to cherish their cars is hard to say...
The PCA might have some good solid numbers, but since PCA members are more likely to cherish their cars is hard to say...
Of course, every time I read of another car being parted out in the 924/944/968 or 928 forums it makes me wonder just what percent is actually still on the road.
05-26-2017 | 10:49 AM
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You've seen it posted in Porsche ads, you've read it here but, is it still true that over 70 percent of all Porsche cars built are still on the road?
I was visiting porsche.com yesterday and, as usual, the above claim popped up somewhere in the layers on the way to the 924s parts catalogue. But just after clicking the 924s icon the view of their world was different. That 70 percent? It's no longer the case: "The fascination of Porsche is timeless. How can you tell? Because more than two thirds of all the Porsche vehicles ever built are still on the road today."
Then again, there are lies, damned lies and statistics.
I was visiting porsche.com yesterday and, as usual, the above claim popped up somewhere in the layers on the way to the 924s parts catalogue. But just after clicking the 924s icon the view of their world was different. That 70 percent? It's no longer the case: "The fascination of Porsche is timeless. How can you tell? Because more than two thirds of all the Porsche vehicles ever built are still on the road today."
Then again, there are lies, damned lies and statistics.
05-26-2017 | 12:10 PM
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bear in mind that Porsche has built more vehicles since 1997 than they did from 1938-1996.. 
they built something around 160k 944s and 100k 924s IIRC, from 1976-1991.
they built over 100k 996 (1997-2004), over 100k 997 (2004-2012), and probably aren't much shy of 100k 991 (2012-present).
at least that many for each generation of boxsters.
probably twice that many for each generation of Cayennes and now the Panamera and Macan...
70% of Porsches are still on the road today, because 65% of them were built in the last 20 years...LOL
they built something around 160k 944s and 100k 924s IIRC, from 1976-1991.
they built over 100k 996 (1997-2004), over 100k 997 (2004-2012), and probably aren't much shy of 100k 991 (2012-present).
at least that many for each generation of boxsters.
probably twice that many for each generation of Cayennes and now the Panamera and Macan...
70% of Porsches are still on the road today, because 65% of them were built in the last 20 years...LOL
05-26-2017 | 01:21 PM
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"70% of Porsches are still on the road today".
Define "on the road". Total road mileage clocked on the four 944's I've owned the last thirty years was less than 3k miles a year.
Porsche are generally low mileage second or third cars. By contrast you get a gift and plaque from Mercedes when you reach 500k miles and there are a bunch of those high milers still on the road.
Define "on the road". Total road mileage clocked on the four 944's I've owned the last thirty years was less than 3k miles a year.
Porsche are generally low mileage second or third cars. By contrast you get a gift and plaque from Mercedes when you reach 500k miles and there are a bunch of those high milers still on the road.
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05-28-2017 | 11:19 AM
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they've been hunted to near-extinction by lart.
05-28-2017 | 02:28 PM
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Up here in New Hampshire, I recently visited a parts warehouse of used Porsche parts. Must've had 50 transmissions, both auto and manual and at least 25-35 engines, all of 944, 924, 928 vintage. Seats, body parts, trim moldings, glass and all sorts of parts for 356's on up...Astounding. I will be taking my parts car up there this summer...hopefully the result will pay for my efforts, trailer rental, etc.
06-03-2017 | 11:00 PM
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While I would agree that the differences may not be significant, one might view it as so given the number of years that the former number has been offered up by Porsche.