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Old 10-30-2016, 10:34 PM
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Thumbs down eBay scam. Report this guy!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/162261242250

I've tried to inform this guy it's not a real 951. Has a 944 VIN(NOT a 951 VIN), 944 NA motor and all. Clearly a bumper swapped car.

Guy insists Porsche verified the VIN as a 951 and he is trying to sell it as such.

I already reported it but figured several reports would help save some uneducated buyer from buying it by mistake.
Old 10-30-2016, 10:49 PM
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Thanks for the tip. What a joke, I also reported.
Old 10-30-2016, 10:53 PM
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i laughed. repored.
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Zero feedback, terrible listing - this thing will sit.

.. 15" wheels, NA coolant tank... what else gives it away?
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Unfortunately, not everyone shopping for one knows all these details.

I'd just hate for some kid to think he's scoring a deal on a 951 get scammed by this guy.

"Looks like a Turbo" to the uneducated buyer.
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Reported. The bumper cover is not even installed with the matching front clip parts.
Old 10-31-2016, 12:32 AM
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I sent him a message on ebay as well.

Reported.

Thanks for the message re: this. ( maybe he bought on the same presumption he is trying to sell it as. ) Needless to say, but this needs to stop right now.
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Another give away is if you zoom in a bunch, it's obvious it has NA brakes. The intake manifold and throttle body is also a dead give away, as is the obvious lack of the turbo/downpipe where it should be. I noticed the roof was messed up too.

Has anyone ran that VIN he posted and seen if it came up as a turbo vin from another car, or if he was dumb enough to actually post the VIN from that car (which would obviously come up as an NA car).
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Seriously, you guys don't see the turbo?? It's that big cone-shaped thing hanging off the front of the intake. Those early turbos looked like aftermarket air filters. Hot air gets drawn in and compressed between those things that look like pleats where a filter element would go. These early ones didn't have an intercooler, but then they didn't need one because the turbo has no moving parts!
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Originally Posted by Dougs951S
Has anyone ran that VIN he posted and seen if it came up as a turbo vin from another car, or if he was dumb enough to actually post the VIN from that car (which would obviously come up as an NA car).
You don't need to "run" the VIN. The model number of the car is the 7,8,12 digit of the VIN. He has a picture of the VIN and digits 7,8,12 are "944" (as I mentioned in the first post). If it were a Turbo car the 7,8,12 digit of the VIN would be "951"
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Originally Posted by neunfünfeins
Seriously, you guys don't see the turbo?? It's that big cone-shaped thing hanging off the front of the intake. Those early turbos looked like aftermarket air filters. Hot air gets drawn in and compressed between those things that look like pleats where a filter element would go. These early ones didn't have an intercooler, but then they didn't need one because the turbo has no moving parts!
HAHA That reminds me of back in the 90's I think some company was trying to market an insert that you put in the intake path that created a "turbo vortex" that they claimed would increase HP. What you were actually doing is adding restrictions.
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Vin is 944 and front bumper is 951 replica made to fit 44 fenders.
Old 10-31-2016, 05:34 PM
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OMG! I can't believe it, it's a Porsche 944 turbo built with stealth turbo technology! This is without a doubt THE rarest Porsche ever built! Rumors of it's existing have circulated in quiet garages for years! In fact, it's the only one ever built with the turbo stealth technology that Porsche developed but didn't put into production because it would massively outclass the 911 Turbo and be on equal performance with the top formula one cars of the era. The giveaways to this stealth technology are the stubby cone type filter, the VTX logoed bracket and ultra-high performance blue spark plug wires.

Using early nano technology, Porsche was able to put hundreds of tiny turbos within the folds of a stubby cone filter. But the real genius was in combining the stubby turbo filter with the cooling properties of the kuhl blue spark plug wiring insulation which allowed the air to be super cooled and reach maximum density. The final performance piece d'resistance was to use the extremely lightweight bracket on the MAF allowing the tiny turbos to spin at double their intended RPMs thus producing quadruple the boost.

Without a doubt, the seller is absolutely clueless as to what he really has. Sure he knows it's special, but not how special. Otherwise he'd have taken this to Pebble Beach or Amelia Island and not posted it on eBay.
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Originally Posted by CVR_Rally
HAHA That reminds me of back in the 90's I think some company was trying to market an insert that you put in the intake path that created a "turbo vortex" that they claimed would increase HP. What you were actually doing is adding restrictions.
Yeah I think MythBusters tested one of those things once and it was complete crap.
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