OT: yay ARNOLD - the Govinator
#32
It wasnt really a personal attack.
It has been said that those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it, I fear that this is the fate of the world, to recycle these same pointless visions of dominance and persecution. In case you don't remember, a **** almost became PM of France just last year, proving my point that that sickheaded nonsense is still popular with people inclined to hate.
The **** party is horrific. Racial purity and the relegation of 'lesser races' to slavery are basic tenets of the doctrine. No thanks, I prefer the freedoms my forefathers paid in blood for, you know the ones I am talking about. Or did the Patriot Act take those away too?
Don't know about you, but I would rather have a politically savvy 'dumbo-crap' than a guy who maybe secretly wants to build the worlds largest easy-bake oven. You never know, he might just start taking that Terminator title too seriously.
I can see it now...Arnold becomes govenor, bomb takes out entire US leadership, leaving only 2 men alive in the chain of command, John Ashcroft and his right hand man, the Terminator, to defend the free world from 'terror' by barcoding and RFID tagging everything larger than a TicTac. It's a friggin Clancy novel.
Woo Hoo! Too funny.
I would rather have an ex-**** than a dumbo-crap!
The **** party is horrific. Racial purity and the relegation of 'lesser races' to slavery are basic tenets of the doctrine. No thanks, I prefer the freedoms my forefathers paid in blood for, you know the ones I am talking about. Or did the Patriot Act take those away too?
Don't know about you, but I would rather have a politically savvy 'dumbo-crap' than a guy who maybe secretly wants to build the worlds largest easy-bake oven. You never know, he might just start taking that Terminator title too seriously.
I can see it now...Arnold becomes govenor, bomb takes out entire US leadership, leaving only 2 men alive in the chain of command, John Ashcroft and his right hand man, the Terminator, to defend the free world from 'terror' by barcoding and RFID tagging everything larger than a TicTac. It's a friggin Clancy novel.
Woo Hoo! Too funny.
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Originally posted by Water944t
It wasnt really a personal attack.
It has been said that those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it, I fear that this is the fate of the world, to recycle these same pointless visions of dominance and persecution. In case you don't remember, a **** almost became PM of France just last year, proving my point that that sickheaded nonsense is still popular with people inclined to hate.
The **** party is horrific. Racial purity and the relegation of 'lesser races' to slavery are basic tenets of the doctrine. No thanks, I prefer the freedoms my forefathers paid in blood for, you know the ones I am talking about. Or did the Patriot Act take those away too?
Don't know about you, but I would rather have a politically savvy 'dumbo-crap' than a guy who maybe secretly wants to build the worlds largest easy-bake oven. You never know, he might just start taking that Terminator title too seriously.
I can see it now...Arnold becomes govenor, bomb takes out entire US leadership, leaving only 2 men alive in the chain of command, John Ashcroft and his right hand man, the Terminator, to defend the free world from 'terror' by barcoding and RFID tagging everything larger than a TicTac. It's a friggin Clancy novel.
Woo Hoo! Too funny.
It wasnt really a personal attack.
It has been said that those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it, I fear that this is the fate of the world, to recycle these same pointless visions of dominance and persecution. In case you don't remember, a **** almost became PM of France just last year, proving my point that that sickheaded nonsense is still popular with people inclined to hate.
The **** party is horrific. Racial purity and the relegation of 'lesser races' to slavery are basic tenets of the doctrine. No thanks, I prefer the freedoms my forefathers paid in blood for, you know the ones I am talking about. Or did the Patriot Act take those away too?
Don't know about you, but I would rather have a politically savvy 'dumbo-crap' than a guy who maybe secretly wants to build the worlds largest easy-bake oven. You never know, he might just start taking that Terminator title too seriously.
I can see it now...Arnold becomes govenor, bomb takes out entire US leadership, leaving only 2 men alive in the chain of command, John Ashcroft and his right hand man, the Terminator, to defend the free world from 'terror' by barcoding and RFID tagging everything larger than a TicTac. It's a friggin Clancy novel.
Woo Hoo! Too funny.
By the way, even if an elected official is a ****, you really think he can get away putting people in "ovens" as you said? Another Hitler is not going to happen here in America. The mentality of Germany during Hitler's rise is so much different than now.
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This is a personal attack:
I have no problems throwing extreme political concepts around.
Don't like personal attacks. That is unless you can't argue the other then we understand.
As to Arnold's past: The Simon Wiesenthal Center has "cleared" Arnold. Then it just may be the money he gave them speaking.
Originally posted by Water944t
But I guess you would need to get your news from another source than Nickleodeon to know that.
But I guess you would need to get your news from another source than Nickleodeon to know that.
Don't like personal attacks. That is unless you can't argue the other then we understand.
As to Arnold's past: The Simon Wiesenthal Center has "cleared" Arnold. Then it just may be the money he gave them speaking.
#36
Certainly some good arguments here for both sides of the coin. Most people who run for political office start at the town level and I think it would safe to say they are well intentioned at first. Sadly ,absolute power corrupts absolutely. As their career progresses , their independent thinking becomes party line reflex. No politician will vote against a bill that will lose them votes no matter how bad it is. By it nature alone ,politics is self perpetuating. You want my backing or vote ,you pass my bill or go looking for another job. Now how do you cut spending when you are looking at that as a final resort. I'd give him a chance ,he might just do it cause he doesn't need the money . Assuming his legislature will work with him and thats another story. Now Bush, he on a mission all his own. And I am a staunch Rep,but firmly believe he was wrong on his domestic agenda.The patriot Act was totally wrong.We have just begun to see the error of that one.
#38
Originally posted by elf89
Recalls are stupid and unconstitutional. A set term allows an elected official time to enact their policies and make tough decisions.
Recalls are stupid and unconstitutional. A set term allows an elected official time to enact their policies and make tough decisions.
Originally posted by elf89
he threat of recall forces them to sway with public opinion and nothing gets done.
he threat of recall forces them to sway with public opinion and nothing gets done.
I've said it here on these baords to other liberals who have no logic past thier own noses: Eventuallym with a need based society, there will be no more productivity. Those that could have learned to be will give up, and those that were will leave. Ayn Rand. Objectivism. Any democrat I have ever given some thought to has believed the exact oposite.
The issue with Davis was that he wasn't even that intelligent. He just wanted more illegal immigrants to vote for him.
Originally posted by elf89
I refrain from having an opinion on Davis or Ahnold because I don't live in California, but I do believe the rampant tactic of recall elections diminishes the effectiveness of our society. The longest elected term I'm aware of is 6 years, most are shorter. The framers already limited the amount of damage that can be done before the politician is subject to a vote, and, in my opinion, they set up a pretty good system.
I refrain from having an opinion on Davis or Ahnold because I don't live in California, but I do believe the rampant tactic of recall elections diminishes the effectiveness of our society. The longest elected term I'm aware of is 6 years, most are shorter. The framers already limited the amount of damage that can be done before the politician is subject to a vote, and, in my opinion, they set up a pretty good system.
The "Framers" were the ones that held revolution very close to thier hearts. You can see it between the lines of many parts of our constitution. They believed that if a country was led wrong, that you had the right to bear arms against it in revolution to set forth the true public ideals.
Oh, and whomever said the snipit about the **** frenchman who almost made it to office... The fench system is based on socialist ideals. Communism is not far from that drinking well of putrid ideology, and Nazism is just the other side of that rusty sword. Its not suprising at all. Arnold is so far from the ideals of his country that I find it halarious that people in his town thought he would have any connection with them at this point in his life. He is truly a US citizen, and EVERYONE in Austria in some way can be connected with the 1940s. They had a proven **** death camp manager in thier parlament, and most people thought that was fine. I lived in that country for 6 months. Arnold has nothing to do with it.
Flame on, but remember that socialism is merely democracy with too much government, and too many people bred to stand with thier hands out. Look atr England before 1945. It was a great, solid, democratic country. Now, the socialists get more votes every year. Why? Because too many people have grown up thinking the dole is a way of life.
#39
Better then that Brendon , look at the ideaology of communist countries. Why work , it is up to the government to supply everything we need. The capitalistic view is just the opposite, you don't work you don't eat. The problem I have with this administration is simple , why are we so dam interesed in other countries when we have the problems of jobs here. Lets put people to work with the likes of the WPA programs of the 30-40's which built our highways and electric power damns here , not Iraq or Timbucktu.
#40
Glad to see you on our board Brendan. We need strong minds to counter the weak minded liberal ideals. It's going to take something BIG to happen to turn this country back on the right track. Unfortunately, things are so messed up right now that no matter who gets elected, they won't be able to fix all of the problems.
#41
Who do you think got us into this mess with foreign aid? It certainly isn't Bush's fault. I don't think it is right to perpetuate the fact at hand but even if he decided to stop giving aid altogether, the Dems would be outraged. Bush would be a cold, heartless SOB because we aren't giving out money to other people. That is what angers me the most.
#42
Dan ; you hit the point right on the head. It is no longer what is right but what has the party decided to make policy. Common sense no longer rules.Thats both parties. There is 1 independent in the house and none in the senate. Guess why, $ thats why , 200 million just to run for the presidency ? Its time for the people to speak out and stop this .And the recall ,whoever ran is a signal loud and clear.
#43
I don't know that my opinion about recall elections makes me a liberal. It just strikes me that the recall election is another sleazy tool in the political spinmeister's toolkit that is being overused. If Ahnold can't get the legislature to play ball you can bet that the dems will be calling for another recall too.
#44
Isn't Arnold worth 800 million! If thats the case, he is probably better suited than Davis, to run the 5th largest economy in the world, and since W Buffet is going to help out with the finances, maybe Arnold might do some good! p.s "Back to cars"