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Old 12-12-2013, 10:08 AM
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They're out there. Recently there was a driver in Dallas for 4k. I've seen a few in Washington around 3k. They come up every once in a while
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California or New England - where there is no market for them whatsoever.

and even then, $8~10 k after getting whatever done that could make it drivable for more than 50 miles.

[and no, half-drivable doesn't count (it's tied for fourth place on list of most serious cars of the 1980s w/ Lotus Esprit Turbo)

and is in very good company alongside the Esprit, 959, 288, and F-40 on maintenance costs and shop time, and deserves to be respected as such].



*I would have added the '88 Aston Martin Zagato, but being it was the ugliest sedan in history, I left it out.
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Old 12-12-2013, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dougs951S
a stock 951 is a far cry from god's gift to speed
So what is speed by your standards? It is still faster than 99% of cars on the road.
Old 12-12-2013, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by odurandina
California or New England - where there is no market for them whatsoever.

and even then, $8~10 k after getting whatever done that could make it drivable for more than 50 miles.

[and no, half-drivable doesn't count (it's tied for fourth place on list of most serious cars of the 1980s w/ Lotus Esprit Turbo)

and is in very good company alongside the Esprit, 959, 288, and F-40 on maintenance costs and shop time, and deserves to be respected as such].

*I would have added the '88 Aston Martin Zagato, but being it was the ugliest sedan in history, I left it out.
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You're thinking of the Lagonda...Zagato is a coach builder and design firm.
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Originally Posted by Voith

So what is speed by your standards? It is still faster than 99% of cars on the road.
No, not really. Run of the mill minivans can out run it in a straight line stock for stock.
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Originally Posted by admiralkhole

No, not really. Run of the mill minivans can out run it in a straight line stock for stock.
Also, Doug is pushing some decent power...I've gotten plenty of seat time in his car.
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Originally Posted by admiralkhole
No, not really. Run of the mill minivans can out run it in a straight line stock for stock.
So you're telling me that when you look out the window more than 1 per 100 cars are faster than stock 951?

Do you live in Monaco?

Name 2 factory stock minivans that will go GPS confirmed 270km/h please. Or name one.
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Originally Posted by admiralkhole
They're out there. Recently there was a driver in Dallas for 4k. I've seen a few in Washington around 3k. They come up every once in a while
Not around here. The turbos I see within reasonable driving distance start around $6k in running condition. Unless you count this one.....

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/4237846665.html

....but this is a bit beyond young Karl's current skill set.
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Originally Posted by Voith
So what is speed by your standards? It is still faster than 99% of cars on the road.
A completely stock 944 turbo is faster than 99% of cars on the road?? Hahaha you don't believe that do you?
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Originally Posted by Voith
So you're telling me that when you look out the window more than 1 per 100 cars are faster than stock 951?

Do you live in Monaco?

Name 2 factory stock minivans that will go GPS confirmed 270km/h please. Or name one.
I'm with you on this one. Having been a former minivan owner, there is no way mine would have beat a turbo.
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I live in Texas. Did you forget this is the 21st century? Cars have stronger more efficient engines now a days. I'm at work right now so I can find any minivan acceleration numbers at the moment. A stock 217 hp 951 just isn't as fast as you think it is. Am I against the car in ANY way? Hell no. I love it! Chill out.
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Yeah... I kinda see what I started now......
I'll just sit back and watch for know
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Also, the Mercedes R63 AMG is a minivan. Lol
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This probably doesn't count, but... Renault Espace F1
300 km/hr top speed, 6.2s 0-200 km/hr


Are we counting Mini Coopers as minivans, or hot hatches? There are some quick ones...


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