admiralkhole

I have a full coilover setup on my '83...shoot me a PM and I'll give you some details...It's pretty cheap and very effective!

roman944

last time I looked into this with my early car, you had to swap in later trailing arms and then you could do a coil suspension - problem is, with early cars the rear wheel bearings are a half hour job, with later arms it's a huge PITA

so, you win some, you loose some

buying late trailing arms, rebuild them fresh, then do the swap and conversion

then it gets so pricey, it was easier to do a few torsion bar adjustments

people managed to do it on the cheap, but I never got I to looking at that, since I got rid of the car

Tom R.

S2 has same suspension and brakes as an 88 951, S2 has ABS standard. I think the S2 has a stiffer roll bar than a 88 951. been a long time, not sure of hat nugget. blame it on old age.

Ive been poking around and the S2 prices today are just plain stupid high. I would like a fourth s2, but the value one gets with a E36 M3 keeps sending me back to the bmw classifieds. the asking prices for the 968 are even crazier.

f1rocks

If you are trying to keep the car in 944 Spec trim, read the rules, it will throw you out of class.

You can do some corner balance using the adjustment in the rear.

wildcat077

Brent,

I think SP2 allows for the removal of the rear torsion bars according to the rule book,either way i'll have all Winter to prepare the car as per the series rule.I'm used to doing my 911 with torsion bars so it won't be a problem regardless !

Cheers
Phil

2. SP2/Stock

Cars for this preparation level must meet the PCA Stock rules, modified as follows:

A. All Models – Allowed Modifications
1) Adjustable camber plates, aftermarket fuel rail and non-OEM DME chips in the stock DME are allowed with no weight penalty. DME must be located in one of the two factory stock locations or be fitted with a permanent cover to prevent adjustment of the fuel quality switch. The stock wiring harness must be used, and wiring, sensors or piggyback computers outside of the DME housing are not permitted.

2) Oil pans, pan baffles, scrapers, windage trays, oil pickups, lines, and filters are unrestricted. Oil and power steering hoses may be replaced with metal braided hose. A pressure accumulator (Accusump) is permitted. Dry sump systems are prohibited. The compression ratio may not exceed 10.6:1 for 2.5 liter engines and 10.9:1 for 2.7 liter engines.

3) 944 turbo connecting rods and cylinder heads are allowed for all models.

4) Non-stock mirrors are allowed and passenger side mirrors may be removed.

5) Torsion bars may be removed.

f1rocks

Spec is different than SP2

Just didn't want you to bump yourself out of class if you are trying to stay in Spec/SP1

Get some 85.5/86 944 trailing arms (aluminum/proper offset) and make sure to buy the Racers Edge bolts when you convert to coilover. Lots of stress going through that one suspension bolt.

Eric Buck

Hey,

They are fun cars, unfortunately, I don't get to drive mine much, so I need to sell it. Here's my '88 turbo on Autotrader:

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...gIndex=2&Log=0

I had an ad on Rennlist, but I haven't been able to find it today.

I'm in DC, so not too far to come take a look. Let me know if you want to come drive it.

Eric

konakat

If you are cool with a drop top there is an S2 advertised in Springfield, VA for just $3900. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/d...183989751.html

lovemyp-car

If you are planning on going v8...let me tell you, you want to start with bigger brakes, stiffer suspension and a turbo transmission with a stiffer mount than stock. I did a LT1 swap on my 87 N/A, and I need to upgrade brakes, suspension, and I've had multiple transmissions in it, only the most recent did I drop some decent money on a nice turbo trans as well as filling the stock trans mount with urethane.

Seriously...if you start with a turbo you will have a better radiator which you can use with the LS if you want to stay stock (I've been running the stock n/a radiator on my LT1 swap and I see consistent temps at 190 during the dead of summer...no problems, and my engine is not stock), better brakes on all 4 corners, better suspension, better transmission...it's just a better start. S2 is a good second, but you'll have a pretty short 5th and you'll probably end up swapping to a turbo box, or at least putting a taller 5th in the S2 box.

roman944

exactly, lol

the only reason o go early n/a is lighter weight, but then everything needs to be upgraded, so ...

not sure how I'd feel about a cab, gorgeous cars tho

not worried about classes or anything, straight up fun car

lovemyp-car

Depending on what you go with on the engine you may actually end up around the same weight with an LS...if you start with a turbo, get rid of leather seats if you have them, go manual steering and drop the A/C then you'll be losing a lot of weight. On my swapper I don't have cruise control, power steering or power brakes, air conditioning, and I've removed the collapsible spare from the rear and carry a can of fix a flat...The car is pretty dang light, although I haven't weighed it. I also removed the rear seat and put a delete panel with a pair of 6X9 alpines and a 500 watt Alpine amp, and am running 2 10 inch polk audio subs in the spare tire well...so I've put some of that weight back on

Overall, I'd say starting with the best car you can will always be a good decision...but I personally wouldn't start with a beautiful turbo with a good running engine. Bide your time and watch for something with the engine pulled, or a car listed as a potential track car that has some upgrades to suspension and brakes done already, but needs an engine.

I personally would stay away from cabs, although they are GORGEOUS cars, and I would love to own one, if you plan on doing a V8 swap you will be disappointed with the rigidity of the cab in combination with the monsterous torque from the V8

roman944

I'll be on a lookout for one with blown motor, that makes sense

in my '83 there was no interior, spare, a/c, even box under dash. it was very light, very fun

roman944

my Jetta might sell tomorrow, if it does, I'm seriously in the market