Opinions on this 1988 924S?
10-30-2013, 06:55 PM
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i was guessing in the neighbourhood of 2000 as well.
Anyway wow. Well I just talked to the seller and said my offer would be in the $2000 area on account to fix all the issues (it wasn't JUST the clutch there were a few minor things plus the parking brake). And he said no he can't do that and that his son said his ad had 900 views now and he's been getting some calls... so he's gonna hold on and try to sell it.
He also said "oh the clutch works fine." And I'm like man I noticed a slight lurching.. and the mechanic confirmed the clutch is pretty much dead. He knows better than either of us. And the seller just disagreed.
Too bad, the seller is a really nice guy but I guess he's gonna try to sell it to someone who won't bother with an inspection I guess. Good luck to him with that because they'd have to be pretty dumb or have a dumb mechanic. I told him I'm still interested if no one bites. I know his wife is putting heavy pressure on him to sell so who knows. Sigh. I have terrible luck, that's $400 blown on two inspections with no car to show for it. Least they saved me $6000 in repairs though....
Anyway wow. Well I just talked to the seller and said my offer would be in the $2000 area on account to fix all the issues (it wasn't JUST the clutch there were a few minor things plus the parking brake). And he said no he can't do that and that his son said his ad had 900 views now and he's been getting some calls... so he's gonna hold on and try to sell it.
He also said "oh the clutch works fine." And I'm like man I noticed a slight lurching.. and the mechanic confirmed the clutch is pretty much dead. He knows better than either of us. And the seller just disagreed.
Too bad, the seller is a really nice guy but I guess he's gonna try to sell it to someone who won't bother with an inspection I guess. Good luck to him with that because they'd have to be pretty dumb or have a dumb mechanic. I told him I'm still interested if no one bites. I know his wife is putting heavy pressure on him to sell so who knows. Sigh. I have terrible luck, that's $400 blown on two inspections with no car to show for it. Least they saved me $6000 in repairs though....
10-30-2013, 07:41 PM
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when you add it all up, most of these cars range anywhere from extremely tired, to basket cases.
of course his only option is to find a sucker.
and imo, he's not a nice guy. and out to lunch too.
[from the Corvette thread upstairs where there's a pretty nasty argument going
on between several of the 944 guys and I'm not even involved].
of course his only option is to find a sucker.
and imo, he's not a nice guy. and out to lunch too.
on between several of the 944 guys and I'm not even involved].
10-30-2013, 09:06 PM
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Always 2 sides to how to price any off these front engine Porsches. The values of these cars are horrible, because of the mindset of the knowitalls. The bottom line is that every 924/944/968 is going to cost more than you bought it for regardless of, well, what you got it for. All these cars under 10k (924/944/968) need something or will soon need something. If you take an asking price and subtract every little thing it needs, and every little thing it will "soon" need, well then all these cars should be free if not actually get paid to take them. Don't sit with a tablet and add up what it will cost and deduct the price of what it might need.
If they are asking 5k but there is a small shudder in the clutch and your mechanic says it will cost 2500 to fix "sometime soon" deducting that 2500 off their asking price is asinine. This is what keeps the value of these cars, all of them next to worthless.
The car will cost you money after purchase, a lot of money, even if it's perfect now.
My advise is find one you like, if you can't find a better deal on one nicer, buy it, then expect to pay more as time comes, or learn to work on them yourself, really parts are cheap, maybe not new parts, but really who needs a brand new part on a twenty some year old car
Have fun with whatever you buy for whatever price.
If they are asking 5k but there is a small shudder in the clutch and your mechanic says it will cost 2500 to fix "sometime soon" deducting that 2500 off their asking price is asinine. This is what keeps the value of these cars, all of them next to worthless.
The car will cost you money after purchase, a lot of money, even if it's perfect now.
My advise is find one you like, if you can't find a better deal on one nicer, buy it, then expect to pay more as time comes, or learn to work on them yourself, really parts are cheap, maybe not new parts, but really who needs a brand new part on a twenty some year old car
Have fun with whatever you buy for whatever price.
10-30-2013, 09:19 PM
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I'm glad I got my car with a brand new clutch. After owning it for two years and 30K miles, maintenance and repairs (including a new set of tires) still hadn't pushed the total investment past $5,000.
I decided that when it comes time to do the clutch again, I'll pull the engine and go through the whole thing myself, replace seals and rubber and whatever else it needs (like the oil pan which currently has a crack sealed with epoxy thanks to a large rock in my eroding private gravel road...)
Or I might stuff a 951 engine in it because by then it won't be a daily driver.
I decided that when it comes time to do the clutch again, I'll pull the engine and go through the whole thing myself, replace seals and rubber and whatever else it needs (like the oil pan which currently has a crack sealed with epoxy thanks to a large rock in my eroding private gravel road...)
Or I might stuff a 951 engine in it because by then it won't be a daily driver.
10-30-2013, 09:29 PM
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Sorry, I realized there was also work that needed to be done to the linkage which probably accounts for the estimate being higher.
I wasn't flat subtracting the work needed from the price we agreed on at all. It needs probably 3500-4000 of work.. I'm willing to eat some of that cost as I'd have brand new parts which makes the car worth more than $4000. But he wouldn't even negotiate from the original price. I'm not paying a premium for a car with a bad clutch that has no service history or anything. It's a risk and the price I asked reflects that.
Anyway, I found this as well.
http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ537342251
Thoughts on pricing for that? He already replied and said he's owned the car for 15 years and does most of the work himself. Now THAT gives me confidence... it looks just as good, has lower mileage and I have some car history to work with... only negative is it's a 1987 not a 1988 but that's not a huge deal to me.
Only reason I didn't go for it before was because it was an hour farther than the one in the original post.
I wasn't flat subtracting the work needed from the price we agreed on at all. It needs probably 3500-4000 of work.. I'm willing to eat some of that cost as I'd have brand new parts which makes the car worth more than $4000. But he wouldn't even negotiate from the original price. I'm not paying a premium for a car with a bad clutch that has no service history or anything. It's a risk and the price I asked reflects that.
Anyway, I found this as well.
http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ537342251
Thoughts on pricing for that? He already replied and said he's owned the car for 15 years and does most of the work himself. Now THAT gives me confidence... it looks just as good, has lower mileage and I have some car history to work with... only negative is it's a 1987 not a 1988 but that's not a huge deal to me.
Only reason I didn't go for it before was because it was an hour farther than the one in the original post.
10-30-2013, 09:34 PM
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10-30-2013, 09:37 PM
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Sorry, I realized there was also work that needed to be done to the linkage which probably accounts for the estimate being higher.
I wasn't flat subtracting the work needed from the price we agreed on at all. It needs probably 3500-4000 of work.. I'm willing to eat some of that cost as I'd have brand new parts which makes the car worth more than $4000. But he wouldn't even negotiate from the original price. I'm not paying a premium for a car with a bad clutch that has no service history or anything. It's a risk and the price I asked reflects that.
Anyway, I found this as well.
http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ537342251
Thoughts on pricing for that? He already replied and said he's owned the car for 15 years and does most of the work himself. Now THAT gives me confidence... it looks just as good, has lower mileage and I have some car history to work with... only negative is it's a 1987 not a 1988 but that's not a huge deal to me.
Only reason I didn't go for it before was because it was an hour farther than the one in the original post.
I wasn't flat subtracting the work needed from the price we agreed on at all. It needs probably 3500-4000 of work.. I'm willing to eat some of that cost as I'd have brand new parts which makes the car worth more than $4000. But he wouldn't even negotiate from the original price. I'm not paying a premium for a car with a bad clutch that has no service history or anything. It's a risk and the price I asked reflects that.
Anyway, I found this as well.
http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ537342251
Thoughts on pricing for that? He already replied and said he's owned the car for 15 years and does most of the work himself. Now THAT gives me confidence... it looks just as good, has lower mileage and I have some car history to work with... only negative is it's a 1987 not a 1988 but that's not a huge deal to me.
Only reason I didn't go for it before was because it was an hour farther than the one in the original post.
10-30-2013, 09:55 PM
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Used parts, yes. I've done quite a bit of used part selling (speaking of which, if anybody needs parts, message me...I've got a bunch.)
It's the ones you want to get new, that aren't common items like oil or air filters, that will get to you.
It's the ones you want to get new, that aren't common items like oil or air filters, that will get to you.
10-30-2013, 10:05 PM
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996,
a nice '87 944s [running] sold 2 streets over for like, $1,300 about a year and a half ago. I'm sure it had the typical warts, but that's about the right price for one of these in the Boston area.
comb the CL ads. in New England and upstate New Jork.
you never know.
a nice '87 944s [running] sold 2 streets over for like, $1,300 about a year and a half ago. I'm sure it had the typical warts, but that's about the right price for one of these in the Boston area.
comb the CL ads. in New England and upstate New Jork.
you never know.
10-30-2013, 10:38 PM
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The guy already replied.
He says he's done most of the work himself. Owned for 15 years. Paint job 2 years ago (cost him 2500, also removed some small dents). Timing belt has 14k on it. Clutch has 10k on it. Changed oil twice a year. No accidents. New stereo system. Only put 2000km a year on it he said. Dash is in better shape than usual but still has some cracks. Reason for selling is he's 58 and can't see as well and can't work on the car as much anymore. No rust.
Maybe it was a good thing I walked from the other one. This one sounds MUCH better. Some actual history is nice, I hate guessing.
He says he's done most of the work himself. Owned for 15 years. Paint job 2 years ago (cost him 2500, also removed some small dents). Timing belt has 14k on it. Clutch has 10k on it. Changed oil twice a year. No accidents. New stereo system. Only put 2000km a year on it he said. Dash is in better shape than usual but still has some cracks. Reason for selling is he's 58 and can't see as well and can't work on the car as much anymore. No rust.
Maybe it was a good thing I walked from the other one. This one sounds MUCH better. Some actual history is nice, I hate guessing.
About the same as my car was (except mine has original paint.)
10-31-2013, 12:45 AM
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I'm no expert on 924's but are you sure this is a 88 924S? From the looks of the interior and steering wheel it looks like an early 924. 924S were introduced in 1986 and should have similar dash, steering wheel as late 1985 944's.