Opinions on this 1988 924S?
10-23-2013, 08:13 PM
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I sent them a long email giving the pros and cons of the car and depending on the inspection how much I'm willing to pay. They came back and said $4000 was acceptable to them if the inspection goes like we both think it will (ie key items don't need to be replaced for a few years at least and it is mechanically sound).
Going to call the shop tomorrow and try to arrange something. If all comes back rosy I will own this car
Going to call the shop tomorrow and try to arrange something. If all comes back rosy I will own this car
10-24-2013, 12:03 AM
#49
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Figured I should do a Carproof before shelling out 200 bucks for an inspection. Looks like it checks out. No frame damage, not a salvage vehicle. One claim for $3200, I'm guessing that might have been why the car got a new paint job actually. Probably got scratched up or something 'cause it says it wasn't collision damage.
http://reports.carproof.com/main?id=...%3d%3d#Img_acc
http://reports.carproof.com/main?id=...%3d%3d#Img_acc
10-24-2013, 09:53 AM
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Good luck with it.
I'd colour match/plasti dip the side marker lights to hide or change their shape (It is the one thing I hate most about the 924) Put some lowering springs in the front, and lower the ecentrics in the rear and install some newer boxster wheels. They look really good lowered. (see Morghens turbo 924)
Keep an extra grand or two available to fix up anything that may pop up once you start driving it, and you should be good to go and have a lot of fun driving it.
I'd colour match/plasti dip the side marker lights to hide or change their shape (It is the one thing I hate most about the 924) Put some lowering springs in the front, and lower the ecentrics in the rear and install some newer boxster wheels. They look really good lowered. (see Morghens turbo 924)
Keep an extra grand or two available to fix up anything that may pop up once you start driving it, and you should be good to go and have a lot of fun driving it.
10-27-2013, 01:47 AM
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I have a 1987 924S that has been my daily driver for 5.5 years and 55,000 miles. It was garaged its whole life, with 68K miles (about 10K more than that '88), a brand new clutch, pretty much all the service records, and the seller knew the first owner personally (his brother bought it from the original owner and sold it to him).
The interior was perfect aside from I think one small dash crack, paint was almost perfect, and all it needed was tires and sunroof gears.
For the first two years (30K miles), all it needed was tires and oil changes. It started leaking from the valve cover gasket ($25 part and $100 of labor), and then was good for a while longer.
I had a friend do the timing belts, and then the head gasket blew, mainly my fault for not paying attention to the temp gauge on a long drive. One of the little radiator hoses has a plastic connector that cracked and on that drive it broke off. I consider the blown head gasket my failure and learned to pay better attention to the temperature.
Got that fixed, and for the last two years now it's been great. Took me across the country twice, and to work every day, and from Portland OR to Seattle and back several times.
I paid $3900 for it, and have put about $1,200 into it per year. That includes the head gasket, and also a leather Recaro Sport seat (not cheap!), a set of 928 wheels, three sets of tires, a black leather passenger seat from a 911, and other non-maintenance upgrades.
So as far as maintenance and repairs go, I've spent less than $1,000 a year.
I love my car. Never intend to sell it. I'll drive it until it can drive no more, and then fix it and drive it again. Someday it might get a Chevy V8 engine. We'll see how that goes in the 944 I'm working on.
So yes, at $4,000, I would go for it! I kinda want an '88, but they don't show up often since they're so rare. I think you'll love it.
The interior was perfect aside from I think one small dash crack, paint was almost perfect, and all it needed was tires and sunroof gears.
For the first two years (30K miles), all it needed was tires and oil changes. It started leaking from the valve cover gasket ($25 part and $100 of labor), and then was good for a while longer.
I had a friend do the timing belts, and then the head gasket blew, mainly my fault for not paying attention to the temp gauge on a long drive. One of the little radiator hoses has a plastic connector that cracked and on that drive it broke off. I consider the blown head gasket my failure and learned to pay better attention to the temperature.
Got that fixed, and for the last two years now it's been great. Took me across the country twice, and to work every day, and from Portland OR to Seattle and back several times.
I paid $3900 for it, and have put about $1,200 into it per year. That includes the head gasket, and also a leather Recaro Sport seat (not cheap!), a set of 928 wheels, three sets of tires, a black leather passenger seat from a 911, and other non-maintenance upgrades.
So as far as maintenance and repairs go, I've spent less than $1,000 a year.
I love my car. Never intend to sell it. I'll drive it until it can drive no more, and then fix it and drive it again. Someday it might get a Chevy V8 engine. We'll see how that goes in the 944 I'm working on.
So yes, at $4,000, I would go for it! I kinda want an '88, but they don't show up often since they're so rare. I think you'll love it.
10-27-2013, 02:44 AM
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I have a 1987 924S that has been my daily driver for 5.5 years and 55,000 miles. It was garaged its whole life, with 68K miles (about 10K more than that '88), a brand new clutch, pretty much all the service records, and the seller knew the first owner personally (his brother bought it from the original owner and sold it to him).
The interior was perfect aside from I think one small dash crack, paint was almost perfect, and all it needed was tires and sunroof gears.
For the first two years (30K miles), all it needed was tires and oil changes. It started leaking from the valve cover gasket ($25 part and $100 of labor), and then was good for a while longer.
I had a friend do the timing belts, and then the head gasket blew, mainly my fault for not paying attention to the temp gauge on a long drive. One of the little radiator hoses has a plastic connector that cracked and on that drive it broke off. I consider the blown head gasket my failure and learned to pay better attention to the temperature.
Got that fixed, and for the last two years now it's been great. Took me across the country twice, and to work every day, and from Portland OR to Seattle and back several times.
I paid $3900 for it, and have put about $1,200 into it per year. That includes the head gasket, and also a leather Recaro Sport seat (not cheap!), a set of 928 wheels, three sets of tires, a black leather passenger seat from a 911, and other non-maintenance upgrades.
So as far as maintenance and repairs go, I've spent less than $1,000 a year.
I love my car. Never intend to sell it. I'll drive it until it can drive no more, and then fix it and drive it again. Someday it might get a Chevy V8 engine. We'll see how that goes in the 944 I'm working on.
So yes, at $4,000, I would go for it! I kinda want an '88, but they don't show up often since they're so rare. I think you'll love it.
The interior was perfect aside from I think one small dash crack, paint was almost perfect, and all it needed was tires and sunroof gears.
For the first two years (30K miles), all it needed was tires and oil changes. It started leaking from the valve cover gasket ($25 part and $100 of labor), and then was good for a while longer.
I had a friend do the timing belts, and then the head gasket blew, mainly my fault for not paying attention to the temp gauge on a long drive. One of the little radiator hoses has a plastic connector that cracked and on that drive it broke off. I consider the blown head gasket my failure and learned to pay better attention to the temperature.
Got that fixed, and for the last two years now it's been great. Took me across the country twice, and to work every day, and from Portland OR to Seattle and back several times.
I paid $3900 for it, and have put about $1,200 into it per year. That includes the head gasket, and also a leather Recaro Sport seat (not cheap!), a set of 928 wheels, three sets of tires, a black leather passenger seat from a 911, and other non-maintenance upgrades.
So as far as maintenance and repairs go, I've spent less than $1,000 a year.
I love my car. Never intend to sell it. I'll drive it until it can drive no more, and then fix it and drive it again. Someday it might get a Chevy V8 engine. We'll see how that goes in the 944 I'm working on.
So yes, at $4,000, I would go for it! I kinda want an '88, but they don't show up often since they're so rare. I think you'll love it.
10-27-2013, 02:53 AM
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Yeah, I've owned three 944's so far (currently have two) and a 928 ('79, 5 speed, no sunroof, Minerva Blue), and I love my 924S most. ^_^
Although that 928 was a pretty awesome car...I only had it a few months so my first car daily driver 924S has a little more of the sentimental value.
I've only ever seen one other 924S in person (same year, color, trim...). I was the only one at a Porsche car show. Currently there's one identical to mine for sale on local Craigslist with a branded title (not sure why but it looks good...lady owned) with 131K miles for $1500 and I want to get it for $1000 or $1200 but I have four cars already and not that much money to spare at the moment. We'll see if it's still there when I do.
They're great cars.
I hit 130 mph at about 5900 rpm on a long straight stretch of I-90 between Seattle and Yakima last weekend, late at night when the road was empty. With two passengers and a load of luggage (plus all my tools). It was awesome.
Although that 928 was a pretty awesome car...I only had it a few months so my first car daily driver 924S has a little more of the sentimental value.
I've only ever seen one other 924S in person (same year, color, trim...). I was the only one at a Porsche car show. Currently there's one identical to mine for sale on local Craigslist with a branded title (not sure why but it looks good...lady owned) with 131K miles for $1500 and I want to get it for $1000 or $1200 but I have four cars already and not that much money to spare at the moment. We'll see if it's still there when I do.
They're great cars.
I hit 130 mph at about 5900 rpm on a long straight stretch of I-90 between Seattle and Yakima last weekend, late at night when the road was empty. With two passengers and a load of luggage (plus all my tools). It was awesome.
10-27-2013, 10:02 AM
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+2!
Owned my '88 924S since '96
Owned my '87 924S since '98
Pure sleek modern design with the 944 engine.
Aerodynamics copied in current vehicle design of many brands.
J_AZ
Owned my '88 924S since '96
Owned my '87 924S since '98
Pure sleek modern design with the 944 engine.
Aerodynamics copied in current vehicle design of many brands.
J_AZ
10-29-2013, 01:41 PM
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Last few posts have definitely given me some encouragement!
I'm going to be there for the inspection tomorrow afternoon. If the parking brake is an easy fix and it all checks out I hope to own the car Thursday/Friday.
Also placing a pre-made garage on my property tomorrow to replace the old one that fell apart on the previous owner of this house. Great timing if I get this car!
I'm going to be there for the inspection tomorrow afternoon. If the parking brake is an easy fix and it all checks out I hope to own the car Thursday/Friday.
Also placing a pre-made garage on my property tomorrow to replace the old one that fell apart on the previous owner of this house. Great timing if I get this car!
10-30-2013, 04:59 PM
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PPI came back
Said the clutch is completely shot. Needs replacement. $3000 job (seems a little high). What's the going rate for your clutch jobs?
Said the handbrake is just the ratcheting mechanism.
Besides that the car is in immaculate condition.
What would you offer in light of this info? I'm willing to eat some of the cost as I was expecting to only get maybe 5 years out of the clutch... if I did it now and replaced the belts I would have a very low maintenance car for quite some time. I'm thinking an offer of $2000-2500 if the clutch is quoted around $2000 at another shop...
Said the clutch is completely shot. Needs replacement. $3000 job (seems a little high). What's the going rate for your clutch jobs?
Said the handbrake is just the ratcheting mechanism.
Besides that the car is in immaculate condition.
What would you offer in light of this info? I'm willing to eat some of the cost as I was expecting to only get maybe 5 years out of the clutch... if I did it now and replaced the belts I would have a very low maintenance car for quite some time. I'm thinking an offer of $2000-2500 if the clutch is quoted around $2000 at another shop...
10-30-2013, 05:31 PM
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I sent them a long email giving the pros and cons of the car and depending on the inspection how much I'm willing to pay. They came back and said $4000 was acceptable to them if the inspection goes like we both think it will (ie key items don't need to be replaced for a few years at least and it is mechanically sound).
Going to call the shop tomorrow and try to arrange something. If all comes back rosy I will own this car
Going to call the shop tomorrow and try to arrange something. If all comes back rosy I will own this car
PPI came back
Said the clutch is completely shot. Needs replacement. $3000 job (seems a little high). What's the going rate for your clutch jobs?
Said the handbrake is just the ratcheting mechanism.
Besides that the car is in immaculate condition.
What would you offer in light of this info? I'm willing to eat some of the cost as I was expecting to only get maybe 5 years out of the clutch... if I did it now and replaced the belts I would have a very low maintenance car for quite some time. I'm thinking an offer of $2000-2500 if the clutch is quoted around $2000 at another shop...
Said the clutch is completely shot. Needs replacement. $3000 job (seems a little high). What's the going rate for your clutch jobs?
Said the handbrake is just the ratcheting mechanism.
Besides that the car is in immaculate condition.
What would you offer in light of this info? I'm willing to eat some of the cost as I was expecting to only get maybe 5 years out of the clutch... if I did it now and replaced the belts I would have a very low maintenance car for quite some time. I'm thinking an offer of $2000-2500 if the clutch is quoted around $2000 at another shop...
Full clutch parts kits with every part required less the machine/balance work on the flywheel (about $75 US) is $1000US
Shop labor at 8 hours (or less) for a pro like PorscheDoc $800-1000 labor.
Shop labor at 14-16 hours $1400
DIY labor working normal and with experience and tools---a long weekend not counting time to have flywheel surfaced/balanced.
DIY labor working normal and so-so experience and fewer tools.
2 to 3 long weekends. More time if a few friends come over with beer or you do not follow procedure and round a few bolts.
What to offer or expect the owner to accept with his beginning price of $5500? $3000 to $4000 due to condition of car. Offer less to begin and explain the costs.
GL
J_AZ
10-30-2013, 05:48 PM
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oops. have we another car parked on overpriced-endless-money-pit way.
and with the truth now exposed; even my initial estimate was way too high.
and the repair outpaces the value by....
six million dollars.
and the seller forced to sell it to the first unsuspecting.....
and with the truth now exposed; even my initial estimate was way too high.
and the repair outpaces the value by....
six million dollars.
and the seller forced to sell it to the first unsuspecting.....
Last edited by odurandina; 10-30-2013 at 06:03 PM.