Market for an '86 944 Turbo
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Not saying the car isn't a keeper, but it's not collectible and it never will be. The prices for these cars have peaked, and will only increase due to normal inflation.
Consider the 914. It was never well-liked by the P-Car faithful and, despite low production numbers (120k) and age (40 years!), it's easy to find good examples at reasonable prices.
Even sadder are the values for 928s. A car that was one of the finest automobiles in the world, and of which only around 100k examples were ever produced. Porsche's only true GT. Yet, a 928 costs about the same as a 951 of similar age and condition.
These cars will never command anything like the prices of even poor examples of 911s. And let's not even consider what 356s are going for these days.
Consider the 914. It was never well-liked by the P-Car faithful and, despite low production numbers (120k) and age (40 years!), it's easy to find good examples at reasonable prices.
Even sadder are the values for 928s. A car that was one of the finest automobiles in the world, and of which only around 100k examples were ever produced. Porsche's only true GT. Yet, a 928 costs about the same as a 951 of similar age and condition.
These cars will never command anything like the prices of even poor examples of 911s. And let's not even consider what 356s are going for these days.
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You might be right Shawn. I have a pair of 914's as well. Hoping to eventually get one good one out of them at some point. Prices will go up and down. Everything about the 914 is dependent on rust and condition. But even the nicest models have trended down.
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I dont get why legendary race car that started cup racing for porsche, wouldnt be collectible?
Somebody recently bought 951S for $70k. Is that perhaps because of inflation?
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I for one appreciate a controversial opinion. It's true that Porsche's 911 is the most sought-after Porsche, but that is a trend. There is also a giant subgroup of Porsche fans that dig the 944. There are also a bunch of people who don't care that it's not air-cooled.
It's becoming rarer, it's well-built, it's aged and modern, and has a lot going for it in terms of technical achievements. And it is indeed a Porsche, which is a widely recognized name.
Again, the reason for low values is a trend. All logic points to an increasing value. I don't think we can look at the 914 or 928 as equal references, because their history has not ended.
The 944 community will evolve. Nice 944s will come and go. Add a bit of prestige and rarity to these cars and the people will pay more for a 944. Those buying project cars for their sons now should be in for a pleasant surprise in the future.
It's all a trend is what I am saying. And most arrows point to our cars being quite valuable. Hardly can you ever get such a good deal for a nice car. This will surely change. The 944 is not classic yet, per say...and when it is....
And lastly, I am a bit afraid that parts cars are drying up, meaning that parts prices will increase, which will narrow the ownership community. This may break the threshold, boys, and it might not be good for all of us.
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I don't think prices have even neared their peak. They were starting to climb a good bit before the economy went belly up. Especially the S2's. I've seen S2's and Silver Rose's top 911 2.7s in value due to the studs pulling on the magnesium engines
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but you're smoking crack if you think these cars are ever, ever, ever going to be worth what a 911 is worth. Nothing supports that assessment.
Here's a 15 minute analysis for 1987 (the year of my 951):
Sure, there will always be odd cars and odd buyers who will kick a car into the stratosphere, but on average, it's not going to happen.
Just as a funny joke: notice that the the 911 rolling stock has more than twice the value of all the others combined ($372K vs $128k). Also: considering the initial build numbers, there are a lot of 911s on the market. That reflects how these cars are valued - and will continue to be valued. The relative rarity of the others is having no effect on their value, nor will it in the future. These cars simply aren't classics. A look at the market for American classics will show you that, no matter how rare a 57 Desoto is, it will never have the value of a 57 Chevy. It's going to be the same with these.
This, however, is good news. Drive your cars. Enjoy them. You can replace it!
Here's a 15 minute analysis for 1987 (the year of my 951):
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Model Produced MSRP Avg Recent eBay Value (# for sale) 911 16,441 $40,000+ $31,000 (12) 944 10,689 $32,000+ $5,600 (3) 951 4,955 $36,000+ $4,500 (7) 928 5,403 $59,000+ $13,400 (6)
Just as a funny joke: notice that the the 911 rolling stock has more than twice the value of all the others combined ($372K vs $128k). Also: considering the initial build numbers, there are a lot of 911s on the market. That reflects how these cars are valued - and will continue to be valued. The relative rarity of the others is having no effect on their value, nor will it in the future. These cars simply aren't classics. A look at the market for American classics will show you that, no matter how rare a 57 Desoto is, it will never have the value of a 57 Chevy. It's going to be the same with these.
This, however, is good news. Drive your cars. Enjoy them. You can replace it!
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The values will also increase if some of you stop ricing them out, painting them paint brushes and putting stupid looking mods on them....:roll eyes:
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What, like this..?
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