Interest in an improved oil pan which should help reduce bearing failures?
04-26-2013, 12:57 PM
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04-26-2013, 05:41 PM
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I think it will be unrealistic for it to be less given the amount of work involved, but I have been plesantly surprised before 
Of course, the more we order the less it will be so stick around...
Of course, the more we order the less it will be so stick around...
04-26-2013, 07:02 PM
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my 'duhhh' post....
street:
the engines is good for the street, but the cars effing grip like junior F1, so to 'feel' it anywhere near where the car can take you, you have to be close to the redline-at almost every moment and naturally this only makes sense if you're doing in on your favorite twisty road....but the 30+ year old design is a bit stale w/ less than perfect pump/pickup/crank combination (at high rpm) and the low-capacity pan is allowing some metal on metal contact on the soft bearings leading to catastrophic failure over a relatively short time interval... and to make matters worse, even at the point where the #2 bearing is experiencing starvation, it's barely showing on the guage (if at all).... the solution to this dilemma seems to be: 'change the bearings in accordance with expected wear, or swap to V8 power.'
racing:
is a racing car involved in a racing program? yes, it appears that these cars indeed are involved in racing programs; and this may require that the owners change the bearings, often. or extremely often.
the future:
the good news is that the next step of swapping substitute parts (turning cranks down, running new rods/bearings, pumps, etc) continues to progress. so, despite being such a fan of the V8 swaps, it'll be exciting to see what the next chapter holds.
now i'll read the thread.
the engines is good for the street, but the cars effing grip like junior F1, so to 'feel' it anywhere near where the car can take you, you have to be close to the redline-at almost every moment and naturally this only makes sense if you're doing in on your favorite twisty road....but the 30+ year old design is a bit stale w/ less than perfect pump/pickup/crank combination (at high rpm) and the low-capacity pan is allowing some metal on metal contact on the soft bearings leading to catastrophic failure over a relatively short time interval... and to make matters worse, even at the point where the #2 bearing is experiencing starvation, it's barely showing on the guage (if at all).... the solution to this dilemma seems to be: 'change the bearings in accordance with expected wear, or swap to V8 power.'
racing:
is a racing car involved in a racing program? yes, it appears that these cars indeed are involved in racing programs; and this may require that the owners change the bearings, often. or extremely often.
the future:
the good news is that the next step of swapping substitute parts (turning cranks down, running new rods/bearings, pumps, etc) continues to progress. so, despite being such a fan of the V8 swaps, it'll be exciting to see what the next chapter holds.
now i'll read the thread.
04-26-2013, 10:30 PM
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are you saying that one of Porsche's 1980s cars isn't a maintenance free track car, and/or one requiring a larger oil capacity and replacement of engine internals with greater frequency ?
yeah, that's about it..... dont' get me wrong; that oilpan looks amazing. and God knows something like that thing is badly needed. but can it hold more oil. isn't that the real question we need to be addressing ? there's been a rash of failures lately, and these four cylinder engines are expensive..... and it's tough hearing more bad news. but, once again, i can't speak from experience from years of racing or tuning. but i just enjoy reposting what i hear around the way, stating the obvious, and telling the guys to run M1 0w50 after the first hard freeze, and other such semi-useful things....
04-27-2013, 05:31 AM
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Burning Brakes
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Cars fitted with accusumps have had failures. I don't remember where I saw it last but at least one instance is mentioned in one of the current threads on this issue.
02-24-2014, 03:08 PM
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Burning Brakes
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I'm reviving this thread to see if I can take this idea further.
Is anyone in Conneticut willing to volunter lending a pan, or preferably pan and block to Canton Racing Products for them to study?
CRP is located in North Branford, Probably too far for Chris although he has expressed interest in buying several pans.
Is anyone in Conneticut willing to volunter lending a pan, or preferably pan and block to Canton Racing Products for them to study?
CRP is located in North Branford, Probably too far for Chris although he has expressed interest in buying several pans.
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02-24-2014, 03:13 PM
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I could be interested if it had perhaps more capacity but didn't hang so low - plenty of room on either side of the original sump to kick out more. Don't want the pan hanging below the crossmember.
03-01-2014, 04:17 PM
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I think Mantis Racing in Oakville do 944 oil pans for race cars, and they know a few things about 944s.
03-01-2014, 04:24 PM
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Burning Brakes
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As far as I know they only sell a stock pan that has been modified to use baffles on both sides instead of just one like the LR baffle. I did not find any redesigned pans
