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I think you have a router out somewhere between you and most of the civilized world. The only way I can access rennlist is through safeweb, but then the network administrator calls me and tells me to stop looking at ****. I have not been able to access it from home or work except through safeweb...well, I was able to access it for 10 minutes or so last night, but that was it. Funny thing is that the main rennlist page opens okay, but the forums come up with a 404 error unless I go through safeweb. Has anybody else who can still get to rennlist noticed a huge drop in traffic over the last day or two as far as posts go? John D, what do you know about this?