ernie9468

[QUOTE=f1pilota;10090778]Thanks for the input! I've been thinking the price is high. I have seen some Turbos but isn't there more to go wrong with the turbo? I have had a hard time find s2 Coupes. That was a great car. ( 968 was a consideration but I don't want to deal with pinion issues.)

Lol who put this idea in your head that you will have to deal with pinion issues.Agree that the problem exsist on 968s but a very small amount of them has this issues & it mostly gather to early 968s.A 968 will be perfect for your son,why because it's a very nice car for all around driving either just town cruising or long hwy trips.Don't forget that the 968 is very civilize & smooth to drive versus a 951 even though the HP is the same as an early 951 you can't compare power delivery because of boost.Like mention, because of the 968 3.0 ltr Vario Cam you have linear torque which is neither peaky nor momentory,meaning you have usable torque from a 1000K RPM to the 6,500K red line.Yes it's faster then a NA/S2 & some case a 951 but nothing your son couldn't handle if he drive responsively.

Tom R.

on second thought, you are correct. 86 951 had fuchs. abs first came out in 87 along with the offset change. my bad.

mfyoung1086

You're just saying that becuase in Melbourne you couldn't pick up a 944 in half as good of shape for the same if not more money

Porsche in OZ = ridic expensive

I was looking for a 944 in Sydney, and they are pricey, hell 924's are going for 3-4k!

black944 turbo

Heck, if the money put in and condition talks, then I will offer mine for sale for 25k right now. It is a multiple show winner and very clean as well. This is just not the facts, people invest a lot in these cars and they will not see the return. I for one agree this car is not. 3 k car, however it is not a 10 k car either. I would imagine it is worth in the 6 to 8 k range.

931GT

Very... very few people will pay 8K for even the nicest 944 n/a, forget 10.5K. So its price is way the F$^$ out there. As to those saying its worth every cent... understandable considering most of you have spent a ton on your cars (I'm there also with my 931), but saying this price is reasonable is doing this guy a disservice. Are the Fuchs real or fake, does the seller REALLY have proof for ALL the work, were there any shortcuts taken that the buyer won't know about until something breaks, was the engine broken-in properly after the rebuild or beat-on thereafter? I'd much rather spend 4K on a decent 944 with good paint and have $6500 in my pocket for unforeseen repairs than plunk down $10.5K on a car that has exceeded its maximum value by almost 4 grand.

karlfrevans

^ And you'll have a POS 4k car that you will sink 4-6K into, and still have a POS.
But quality that has been well maintained- not a car that has been serially owned by 20 year olds who dump them to buy the next POS 3K 944.

BlackOp

Exactly....tb/wp=$1200, clutch and slaves=$1800 Fuchs+rubber=$1600 refinished seats = $800, head gasket+rod bearings=$2000, Koni yellow/alinement =$900 = $8300 plus you will be without your car for a month or two. I left out wheel bearing/radiator/hoses/window tint/carpet/dash/oil cooler seals/ fuel ines/ AOS seals, ICV, injectors, steering rack/pump...vacuum lines. You can do the maintenance yourself but have to want a time consuming hobby, proper tools and a place to work on it.

The guy has $25k invested for a reason....people buy 944s because they are cheap then realize they cant afford the maintenance. I would say 80% of them are junk and neglected. I don't think I've ever seen a really nice n/a on the street....except for mine (before the hail storm).

odurandina

since you're in 968 $$$....

Erzengal

The reason the NA's prices are low are more due to competing against the prices of S2 and Turbos. You can still get a pretty decent Turbo for 10.5k.

Maybe 7-8.5k if it is indeed pristine, but not 10.5k on this car.
And I say that as a person with an NA that has also done $20k+ on it.

MAGK944

There are a lot of nice ones out there, I have two that are 9.5/10 overall cars. Thing is those with nice ones are not selling them for cheap. I've been in the market for a nice, mildly modified 951S for over a year and the ones that people are selling just don't meet my standard. The ones I would like to own, they are not selling. The ones that are being sold are the cars that need work (this one excepted).

Paulyy

Not entirely true, 90% of the 944s all have full service history, papers and everything else that goes with an aus delivered car.

kcoyle

I'm pretty sure you couldn't build that car again for 10k assuming all paperwork is in order and there are no issues with it. In that respect it's a deal if you want the nicest NA around.

black944 turbo

Here is the issue, if you bought this and God forbid, you wrecked it. You would 6-8 for it and you would lose your shirt. If you ever wanted to resell, you would never be able to make the money back.

jshep

With my experience with my sons and vehicles, I would advise against a 10K car for a first vehicle. No matter how "responsible" a teenage appears to be, honor student, varsity athlete, they are still teenagers and subject to teenage behavior. Why do you think that insurance for teenager boys is 2x to 3x non teenagers?
I purchased an e36 BMW for my son, he drove other kids to his private school, was extremely responsible. About 5 seconds worth of "fun" put the car into the weeds (of course after about $700 worth of bodywork that absolutely was needed????), drivers side running board hit large rocks under each door (it was a 4 door) and totaled the shell, b piller moved in about 1.5" in a low speed impact. Both my older son, driving, and my younger son were unhurt - thank god! Questions is to suffer the increase in insurance costs or part it out and purchase new? We are parting it out.
My recommendation is dont buy a care that you care about, the real need is transportation and "quality" of the condition is not relevant to the driver, getting there reliably is. A good mechanical condition car, whether it be a 944 or a BMW or other is what is needed. Limit your exposure, as there will be no long term salvage value to a first car.
IF you want him to learn how to drive - make it a father son event in your track vehicle, the dollars spent are worth the bonding and memories.
When he can afford a good car himself, he'll get one and be wiser for it.

My 2 cents worth

Tom R.

for 10k there are better cars than a 944NA. one example i would get is an e36 m3 with 90 hp more, easier to repair, stronger bottom end, and 15 years of safety innovation that includes 2 or more airbags, abs, traction control (96+) and i would bet better crash protection. or for less money an e36 with 50hp more, and all the above.

FYI e36 m3 weighed the same as a 944S2.