Opinion $10,500. 85.5 944?
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But you seem to have that well under consideration.
Now, on the value of that particular car, yes, it is gorgeous, but there are a lot of 944s out there for a lot less, as stated, but it is your money. You may have fewer headaches with that one, but I bet you could find one nearly as nice for a few thousand less if you are willing to look a little more/longer.
Just my .02!
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Thanks for the input! I've been thinking the price is high. I have seen some Turbos but isn't there more to go wrong with the turbo? I have had a hard time find s2 Coupes. That was a great car. 968 was a consideration but I don't want to deal with pinion issues. Thanks for reeling me back in a bit.... I'll let you know.
Again, he's way more responsible than me so I'm not so worried about silly behaviour. Experience is another issue of course.
Thanks again.
Again, he's way more responsible than me so I'm not so worried about silly behaviour. Experience is another issue of course.
Thanks again.
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It's high but nice. I think you need to consider how well it will hold its value. Even if your son is a saint and drives it only to church on Sundays I think it would be YEARS before you could get kind of money back out of it. I would buy him a 3k example and put aside a couple of grand for repairs down the road. Then say 2-3 years later trade him up to a turbo or S2. My son proved himself in a 2 door Focus (yes a Focus) for 2 years before I got him a Mustang.
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IMO that is a good buy just from a financial point of view. You could use it as a daily driver for 5 yrs, put 50k miles on it and probably spend very little on maintenance. When you sell it you will probably get $3-5k for it, so that's just over $100 a month overall cost.
There's not any new or used cars you could buy/lease for that money especially with the pedigree and build quality of a Porsche. Plus your son will have early experience in driving a well balanced sports car without the temptation of high hp. He will appreciate the next car he buys having driven this for a while. Sort of sets the standard for him.
If I was in your position I would offer $8k and negotiate from there.
There's not any new or used cars you could buy/lease for that money especially with the pedigree and build quality of a Porsche. Plus your son will have early experience in driving a well balanced sports car without the temptation of high hp. He will appreciate the next car he buys having driven this for a while. Sort of sets the standard for him.
If I was in your position I would offer $8k and negotiate from there.
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One thing that gets lost is the amount of man hours it takes to get a car back to this condition. A lot of troubleshooting and research...I have hundreds of hours invested in my 944/951. That has to factored into the price. Sure you can buy a cheaper one and restore it...but I wouldn't do it again. Stress, frustration, weekends, rennlist searches....buying tools. I'd rather just have a turn-key car at this point...You pay, one way or another. A car is worthless when it's on sticks...
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IMO that is a good buy just from a financial point of view. You could use it as a daily driver for 5 yrs, put 50k miles on it and probably spend very little on maintenance. When you sell it you will probably get $3-5k for it, so that's just over $100 a month overall cost.
There's not any new or used cars you could buy/lease for that money especially with the pedigree and build quality of a Porsche. Plus your son will have early experience in driving a well balanced sports car without the temptation of high hp. He will appreciate the next car he buys having driven this for a while. Sort of sets the standard for him.
If I was in your position I would offer $8k and negotiate from there.
There's not any new or used cars you could buy/lease for that money especially with the pedigree and build quality of a Porsche. Plus your son will have early experience in driving a well balanced sports car without the temptation of high hp. He will appreciate the next car he buys having driven this for a while. Sort of sets the standard for him.
If I was in your position I would offer $8k and negotiate from there.
One thing that gets lost is the amount of man hours it takes to get a car back to this condition. A lot of troubleshooting and research...I have hundreds of hours invested in my 944/951. That has to factored into the price. Sure you can buy a cheaper one and restore it...but I wouldn't do it again. Stress, frustration, weekends, rennlist searches....buying tools. I'd rather just have a turn-key car at this point...You pay, one way or another. A car is worthless when it's on sticks...
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$10,000 is cheap for a car. The $3-4k 944 are junk. If the car is in great condition then buy it-- if you have a garage for it. Otherwise, its great condition will deteriorate quickly.
Do NOT but him a 944 Turbo. Mine is wicked fast and he could install a chip without you knowing and also be very fast. Do not do it. And the turbo has lots more to go wrong.
Do NOT but him a 944 Turbo. Mine is wicked fast and he could install a chip without you knowing and also be very fast. Do not do it. And the turbo has lots more to go wrong.
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My first Porsche was a '83 944 and it was a blast. Plenty fast and my DD for almost 3 years. If the car is well sorted end to end then that should carry some value. What you spend in the end is certainly your call.
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People need to realise and to those that complain that the value of these cars are to low and in crappy condition, that better examples will start showing up, that people will actually put more effort into these cars then dump them.
The reason they're so cheap is because there in so poor condition and no one is use to seeing good examples. That car is worth the 10k
The reason they're so cheap is because there in so poor condition and no one is use to seeing good examples. That car is worth the 10k
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If you price the Lindsey engine and transmission and add the nice Fuchs wheels, you'll probably be close to the asking price there alone.
If it was me, I'd look at the car and maybe negotiate a bit on the price. If I liked the way it looked and drove, I'd buy it. Like some of the other posters have said, it would take a lot of time and money to get your typical $4k 944 into this condition - likely more than the asking price.
Honestly my only concern would be giving this nice of a car to new driver. Sure, get him something sporty, and with a manual transmission of course, but maybe keep the 944 for yourself until he gets a little seat time under the belt.
If it was me, I'd look at the car and maybe negotiate a bit on the price. If I liked the way it looked and drove, I'd buy it. Like some of the other posters have said, it would take a lot of time and money to get your typical $4k 944 into this condition - likely more than the asking price.
Honestly my only concern would be giving this nice of a car to new driver. Sure, get him something sporty, and with a manual transmission of course, but maybe keep the 944 for yourself until he gets a little seat time under the belt.
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25 responses and nobody addressed wheel offset. Hello McFly - Fuchs on an 85.5? With the wrong wheels as a starting point.... YMMV.
if it was my 10k to spend on my child, I would buy a solid example for 3k, and give the kid an additional 7k to learn with.
if it was my 10k to spend on my child, I would buy a solid example for 3k, and give the kid an additional 7k to learn with.
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wrong offset.
aluminum control arms v. rabbit control arms = fuchs that stick out too far. remember an 85 has the 924 dash, and the 85.5 has the same dash as the 968.
if you want a car that should wear fuchs, what about this one?
http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3488824577.html if i didnt have the m roadster in hibernation and a full garage....
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if you want a car that should wear fuchs, what about this one?
http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3488824577.html if i didnt have the m roadster in hibernation and a full garage....
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wrong offset.
aluminum control arms v. rabbit control arms = fuchs that stick out too far. remember an 85 has the 924 dash, and the 85.5 has the same dash as the 968.
if you want a car that should wear fuchs, what about this one?
http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3488824577.html if i didnt have the m roadster in hibernation and a full garage....![thumbup](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/thumbup.gif)
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if you want a car that should wear fuchs, what about this one?
http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3488824577.html if i didnt have the m roadster in hibernation and a full garage....
![thumbup](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/thumbup.gif)