black944 turbo

Texas performance horsepower for the951 is off and as for the swap what's the point when with a chip and exhaust the 951 can make 240 whp at 15 psi.

xschop

LS Reliability is priceless.....

Someone please attach the Audi V8 to the 951 trans and mount it mid-ship.

V2Rocket

how many 944 drivers are under 5'6"? they might fit into that car

V2Rocket

with some cleanup work the 3.8V6 would be closer to 400whp at 15psi...

Cole

I don't understand all this talk of old 80-90s V6s when part of the point of the original post was a more modern motor.

There really is nothing wrong with teh reliability of the 944 motors, most of the issue people have is dealing with a neglected old car, or a poorly modded car. Well taken care of cars don't seem to have issues. (Or properly modded).

If you want a V6 then I would look at the more modern engine. (And Audi 2.7tt would be fun)

Although, if you are doing an engine swap I see no reason to not do the LSx motor. Your swap costs will probably be lower since it has already been figured out. Parts are readily available. Motors can be found cheap, especially if you are not looking for the performance versions. Sorting out an unknown V6 options will probably cost you more in the long run and yield lesser results. Especially when trying to sell the car down the road. Few people are going to want a "one off" swap if it doesn't produce a fairly big advantage in some way.

87 944 C

yea, how much that audi 2.7tt engine cost, cause i know a slightly used vw gti 2.0 turbo's are about 5g for the engine, for that i'd rather find a 951.

i like the 90's turbo engine's, great sound, great tune-ability, decent reliability(they are turbo'd afterall). not a fan of gm 6cyl, except maybe the new dfi 3.6l that comes in the cts and camaro. and you gotta remember, most new v6's, sound like ****

TNCup

Been lurking for a little while as I've only recently found myself seriously looking into getting into a Porsche. (when I was a kid I thought the 928 was the best looking new car on the planet...still love it) Decided to sign up as my interest has been building, and have been thinking about looking into a possible '4.5L Porsche V-8 into tired Porsche 944 Turbo' engine swap. I haven't gotten any farther than the 'what if' stage at this point for reasons not related to cars, but I'm at least going to make sure the dimensions work and have a conversation with the shop that would be assisting me with the project in the next month or two. The big attraction here is that relatively low mileage 4.5L engines are pretty cheap and surprisingly easy to find, even in turbo guise. I do have the most important part nailed down already, the wife has ok'd the project and is actually aware of the time and money it would tie up!

That said I'm a little surprised that the front engined Porsche community isn't more adventurous in this regard. I've seen more than a few people warned off of modifications to a 928, 944, etc. for cost reasons only to look into it and see that the cost for that particular mod/swap/etc isn't really that crazy in the grand scheme of things. Not complaining by any means just a bit surprised thus far, but still very glad to be here.

black944 turbo

Spencer, I understand and agree with what you are saying,however you missed my pont. A bone stock 951 with an exhaust and chip is 24x whp, why would I go through the trouble and cost of swapping in a inferior na v6?

I am with Cole, most of the issues people have with these cars are not related to the engines anyways with the exception of poor maintenance, ie timing belt.

Triple_T

From what I have read here Porsche "V" engines are too wide to fit into the 944 engine bay.
I was wondering the same thing. As I was contemplating the what if scenario engine swap; Panamera into a 944.

Engine width is the contributing factor, that is why the American LS engines are so popular, they fit!

TNCup

I thought that might be an issue since the 944 engine bay is pretty narrow, but I know a Lexus 1UZ V-8 will fit so I wasn't ready to nix the Porsche V-8 without looking into it more.

944J

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Dubai944

How would you setup the clutch? Are there Audi parts to make that work or would you need to fab the whole thing.

xschop

The Audi V8 is only 19.75 inches long and mates directly to any 5-speed box (starter location same). The Audi clutch fits as well. The Boxster 5-speed has already been mated and that is a simple linkage control. It has been done in a GT-40 kit car and a couple of Boxsters. A mid-engine 944 would be a track *****.

V2Rocket

even at ~20", bolted up to the 944 trans, the front of the engine would be about in the middle of the stock center console...i suppose you could then move the footwells forward with nothing in the way but craaamped

odurandina

the 944 is not a mid-engine setup.

the nose is long. the cockpit, too far to the middle.

the car is already close to perfect.


just wait until Tony's and Bruces cars are up and running.