Less expensive Suspension
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#32
Nordschleife Master
Good to know. I always stayed away from the cup kits as they only had about 100# springs on them from the factory to work with tb's and I didn't like the rubber bushes that you couldn't swap out to spherical. So there is no problem with running 600# plus springs on the rubber bushes?
#33
Good to know. I always stayed away from the cup kits as they only had about 100# springs on them from the factory to work with tb's and I didn't like the rubber bushes that you couldn't swap out to spherical. So there is no problem with running 600# plus springs on the rubber bushes?
http://www.paragon-products.com/Coil...ni_cup_kit.htm
#34
Nordschleife Master
Me too, I was thinking of the factory cup set-up. The "cup" part through me off and off-coarse the original cup kits were Bilstein coilovers not Koni sleeve-overs.
Original Cup Kits by Lindsey:
Original Cup Kits by Lindsey:
#36
Nordschleife Master
thirdgenbird, I think the Paragon kit must be the same as the Ground Control kit. I have the GC with 450# Springs on my street car and they look the same to me and yes agreed they are a cost effective solution to tb delete. I'm running 200# fronts, curious what spring rates you have at the front?
#37
350# up front.
This was based of paragon advice and TonyG's reccomendation of 350/500. I went conservative with 350/450 to account for the narrow rear tires on the 924. The car has a touch of understeer right now. I would say it is just enought to feel safe but long term I may stiffen the rear sway bar to see what change it makes.
This was based of paragon advice and TonyG's reccomendation of 350/500. I went conservative with 350/450 to account for the narrow rear tires on the 924. The car has a touch of understeer right now. I would say it is just enought to feel safe but long term I may stiffen the rear sway bar to see what change it makes.
#38
Nordschleife Master
That makes sense. I'm running staggered which doesn't help with the understeer but with the much larger rear springs it dials most of it out. I'm 188#F and 189#R effective but with the staggered tires I still feel mild understeer into a corner but better than stock.
To the OP, the Patagon or GC sleeve-over kits are a decent budget solution of you tb delete.
My GC rears:
To the OP, the Patagon or GC sleeve-over kits are a decent budget solution of you tb delete.
My GC rears:
#39
Eric, I already have 250lb Eibac front lowering springs, they are not soft by any means. I too, don't understand the big fascination with coilovers for the rear, especially for a car that seldom would see a track, if at all. My car handles great on the track with the way it is currently set-up, I've been perfectly happy with it.
#40
You can use VW torsion bars at $165 a set. 944 uses the 26 9/16 length ones.
It's not so much that the VW ones are less because they're listed for a VW - it's just a cheaper brand. The Swayaway bars cost the same for VW or Porsche (same part numbers).
http://www.mooreparts.com/store/cate...Spring-Plates/
It's not so much that the VW ones are less because they're listed for a VW - it's just a cheaper brand. The Swayaway bars cost the same for VW or Porsche (same part numbers).
http://www.mooreparts.com/store/cate...Spring-Plates/